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:D looking at geting my first stalking rifle :D any sugestions on calibre and make as with credit crunch not to dear 243 or 308 :D


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I didn't really want to let other site members know this, but I own two BSA CF2's. I bought the first one because the landowner wanted his deer shot, offered me the ground, but needed an answer immediately. At the time money was tight and a .243 was available in a local gunshop, complete with scope for £250. The other one is in 6.5x55 and they both shoot sub minute.



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A recommendation of your own rifle will be the one most people make. It's certainly an easy one. Let me provide the first :

Ruger Hawkeye, 243 SS, synthetic stock circa £500+ new.

Or go into your local gun shop and buy the cheapest S/H complete set up they have!

If it's your first rifle, look at conditions on your ticket and keep one eye on land clearance.

Offroad Gary

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snowstorm said:
Or go into your local gun shop and buy the cheapest S/H complete set up they have!

thats not bad advice.

you will need a good scope also, and good binoculars, and probably a moderator, and some carlos fandango trousers, gucci wellies, janspangler jacket and hat, the list is endless...

now for some really bad advice - buy a blaser r93;)


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really most modern rifles are very good.

my suggestion would be to go for one in a calibre fo 6.5 (.260 rem) or above. I use a 7mm08 which is great and a .30-06 which is also great. I have a .243 which i now use for foxing...... i don't feel that they are powerful enough for deer use (in my opinion and many will disagree).

the way to do this is to look at what you want to shoot and where you want to shoot it. if you are going to shoot deer upto and including big fallow or reds in the woods then you need to deliver 130 - 150 gr of bullet to the animal. so look at a calibre where those wieghts are in the middle of what they can handle (that way the twist rate will be fine) so bullet wieghts like that a 7mm08, 7 x 57, 308 win, .270, .30-06 would be good. (amongst others)

contrary to quite a lot of opinion a bigger bullet does not mean more damage. the most damaging bullet i have used on deer is 80 gr federal factory round. this also does not knock them over very well. the most effective on the deer has been 145 gr from 7mm08 and 150 gr from the .30-06.

if you take a smaller calibre i feel you will linit yourself should the oppurtunity arise. ie if you buy a .243 then get invited to take a boar or find yourself with some big fallow or sika that don't want to die then you will be found lacking.

if you reload then .260 or 7mm08 are a great choice. if you don't then .308 win, 270win 30-06 are all great choices with masses of commercially available ammunition.

American rifles are a good buy at the moment with the exchange rate. the remmy 700 sps is cheap, remmy are good and it is synthetic so you won't have to cry every time you touch the stock.



The Mole

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If you're buying new and not looking to spend too much cash, you won't go far wrong with a Howa or a Tikka T3. .308 or 6.5x55 will cover all UK eventualities including boar.


Tikka T3 in 6.5 2506 and you will have one of the most accurate rifles out of the box there is and you wont need to feck about with trigger etc.

with regards the BSA stutzen i had one and used it for poking the fire . :lol:


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The Remington is a very good out the box rifle and should shoot sub 1" groups.

As for calibre done be put off by the 243win. A well placed 90/100 grain bullet will knock over most things the UK has to offer.

A well placed 6mm tip is better than a badly placed 7mm one.

However if you are working purely around red/fallow/sika then a 270 will do the job just fine.



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Anything larger than roe, 7-08, 270 or 308. They kill quicker and more reliable.
People will tell you shot placement is more important than the caliber.
That is gonna help you sweet fanny all when have misplaced a shot by a few inches. a 308 with the right bullet might save the day. Shoot a few years and evaluate every shot. I garantee that not all shots will be perfect. Try shot-placement when shooting driven game.??

Another point, the rifle must fit comfortable. Try a few rifles before you buy. Or think of replacing/ fitting a stock.



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Don't listen to these people.
What you need is a proper rifle, something in .375H&H flavour.
THen when you grow up you can get a man's gun.



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But seriously, why get anything less than .308?
It's a very versatile calibre and will cover all you are after plus bigger
game for the future.


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The stainless howa is really nice, I have a sporter in 22-250 which shoots
tiny groups.
The scope and stock might not be what you want in the long run.
You can always chat with http://anglocustomrifle.co.uk/
they might be able to put together a howa the way you want and tune trigger to your liking.


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I think you will find that any modern day rifle from .243 up will do you fine for hunting in this Country. The weak link in any combination of rifle /scope / calibre / bullet weight etc will always be the person pulling the trigger. Therefore you owe to any animal, be it vermin or game, that you intent to shoot to be able to do it in a manner that is as humane and efficient as possible.
With this in mind you should practice and practice until you know that you are as good as you can be, then when you hunt you will be confident in your shot placement, because it is important very important and something that you should be constantly aware of. Yes mistakes do and will happen not just to you but to everyone but, a poorly shot beast with a 30.06 is just as poorly shot as if a .243 had been used, you cannot compensate by using a larger calibre.



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John, some countries do not even allow a 243 for anything larger than roe.
It just doesn't have it. The bigger calibers kill quicker if the shot is on the same spot. More energy = quicker kill.
If an animal charges you what would you pick up ? a 243 or a 308??
Just because our deer don't charge is that enough reason to use a too small caliber???
Shot placement? shoot a fox into the chest with a 22lr, it'll just run away and die later. Shoot it with a 223 on the same spot and it just falls over.
Both 40gr bullets! different energy.



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I am with you on this. I have had far more runners in roe with .243 than with my 2 bigger rifles.

i would buy stainless and synthetic now. My model 7 is lovely with a wooden stock and blued action. however i don't like the fact that i have been using it for nearly 18 months and already it is looking a bit used with a few scratches on it.

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