Roasting a haunch joint

SimpleSimon

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We've got a couple of friends coming over tonight and I've said I'll do roast venison. I've only really done small joints off the loin before, so wondering how best to tackle a large haunch joint?
For beef I'd usually go something like 15 minutes in hot oven, turn down, then 15 mins/lb + 15 mins. Will that work for venison? I'm keen to avoid over cooking or drying it out for obvious reasons.
 
Is it roe, or some other species?
Roe (and Muntjac) I would cook as for lamb. So put straight in the oven at the cooking temperature; 15/lb +15 mins sounds good.
 
15 minutes a pound on the bone for rare, 15min +15mins a pound for med.
If boned and rolled, 15min+15lb for rare, 25min+15min lb for med, this is for Red and fallow, less time for roe etc.
Don't turn the oven too low!
 
Use a thermometer and cook to a temperature in the middle. I do boned and rolled muntjac to 55 C and then rest for a good while, medium rare after resting, same as beef. Absolutely lovely.
 
I go with the 'Hugh sizzle' approach. Very hot - 220 degs for 25 mins with a well oiled joint covered in rock salt and ground pepper. I also stab it all over with a fine blade and put garlic slivers in there. Then as others have said 15 mins /lb + 15 at 160 degs. Rest for 20 mins.

Drooling already.
 
I go with the 'Hugh sizzle' approach. Very hot - 220 degs for 25 mins with a well oiled joint covered in rock salt and ground pepper. I also stab it all over with a fine blade and put garlic slivers in there. Then as others have said 15 mins /lb + 15 at 160 degs. Rest for 20 mins.

Drooling already.

Going for this or a close variation, I think. Thanks all for the input.
Going to serve with sautéed cabbage and bacon, roasted carrots and some kind of red wine and cranberry gravy/reduction thing.
 
What time Simon. (you did say you're inviting friends round, and I'm thinking a few could turn up now a meal is being provided):D
Are you buying the drinks also?
 
This is the recipe I've developed for slow-cooked roe haunch – it makes very tender meat, and a really good sauce. I usually do this in preference to roasting, as I found it hard to stop the meat drying out, even when wrapped in bacon:

Ingredients:
- Haunch of venison
- Onions, celery, carrots
- Red wine
- Beef stock


- Bay leaves
- Tomato paste
- Juniper berries
- Anchovies
- Pomegranate molasses
- Blue cheese
- Cranberry sauce/ rowan berry jelly




1. Pre-heat oven to 120º.
2. Get a large, heavy casserole pot, put some oil in and heat. Pot needs to be big enough to hold the haunch, plus liquid, submerged.
3. Seal the meat all over, then remove, and turn down heat.
4. Gently fry a mix of finely chopped onions, celery and carrots till soft.
5. Put haunch back in.
6. Pour in red wine and beef stock (approx half/ half, not important), until meat is more or less covered. (I actually transfer everything into a large ceramic pot, rather than continue using a cast iron one, but it doesn’t really matter.)
7. The more stuff you now bung in, the better. I put in most/ all of the following: tomato paste; a little pomegranate molasses; couple of anchovies, or anchovy paste; some bay leaves; juniper berries; mixed herbs; peppercorns. And anything else flavourful, e.g. Worcs sauce.
8. Cover top with foil to completely seal, then put lid on, and put in oven for at least 4-5 hours. Overnight is better.


9. Remove meat from pot, and cover with lots of foil. Keep somewhere warm.
10. Pour all the liquid through a sieve into another pot, and boil hard to reduce it by around three-quarters at least. The wider the bottom of the pot, the quicker it will boil. Skim any scum off.
11. Aim is to produce a thick, very tasty, sauce. If it needs pepping up, i might add more anchovies, and/or small piece of blue cheese, cranberry sauce or rowan berry jelly, and whisk in.
12. If the sauce isn’t glossy, add butter and whisk in.
13. Serve - meat should fall off bone. Pour sauce on top. Enjoy!
 
Use a thermometer and cook to a temperature in the middle. I do boned and rolled muntjac to 55 C and then rest for a good while, medium rare after resting, same as beef. Absolutely lovely.

Plus 1, it takes all the guesswork out of getting it cooked perfectly as you like it.
 
As above, get a thermometer! Most people over-cook venison when roasting and dry it out which completely ruins it! Cook it until the centre is about 60 degrees and then take it out and let it rest. The heat from the outside will be higher and the centre will gradually rise to about 65 degrees. At this point it will be pink and very juicy but not bloody. Perfect!
MS
 
Some of the best venison I've cooked has been from the bonfire!
Wet the haunch in water, good dollop of honey, few springs of rosemary and wrap it all up in several layers of foil - throw on the bonfire (advise to wait until you have a nice bed of ashes as opposed to a roaring inferno!).
A small munti haunch will only take about 20-25mins, allow time to rest.
 
+1 on thermometer but get a digital one not the old fashioned round dial ones (which take ages to respond). I'm a total convert to digital thermometer now and use it loads. Great for roast chicken etc too and you don't over cook them! I've got this one - recommended - think you can get it a bit cheaper:
Heston Blumenthal Digital Meat Thermometer by Salter, Instant Read Food Probe for Kitchen, Cooking, BBQ, Within 0.1 Degree Precision, Incl. Battery, Case, Pocket Clip + Ideal Temperature Card - Silver: Amazon.co.uk: Kitchen Home
 
Well last night was a success, but not the triumph I'd hoped for.
I rolled the joint all over in salt and pepper, then seared it on each side in a very hot frying pan with bacon fat. Then into a hot oven for 20 mins turned down and then 12mins per lb and 20 mins rest.
When I first started to carve the end slices were excellent, but things started to get very bloody very quick. I like rare meat but it was a bit much so I ended up sticking it back in the oven for a bit. Unfortunately I took it just too far and whilst it wasn't dry or tough it had lost all the lovely melt in the mouth pink from the middle.
Thermometer it is...
 
Can’t understand how folk won’t use thermometer..... as already said ... no guesswork take it to the temp range required for your taste be it medium rare etc then remove rest it then eat it

Thermometer definitely way to go as not all ovens run same ... outs runs hot for example

Paul
 
Richmond cookshop do a great thermometer with a remote module and an alarm, you just set it to the desired temp level and it'll tell you when you get there. Bengt Ek (Danish) design, appx £20, highly recommended.

I tend to go hot and quick (seal, season, and then into a 200 deg fan oven preheated), but I prefer personally to take the joint (usually the topside, or topside and silverside rolled, boneless) at around 47 degrees C, cover in tin foil and rest for about thirty mins, by which time the temp will continue to rise to about 55-57deg, which is (for me) pink perfection!




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