Sako M16 extractor on Rem 700

[Hales Smut]

I've read a lot about these extractors fitted to Rem 700's. Some say it's great others say it's dangerous.
Can any specialist on here give his opinion ?

 

[Ronin]

Nothing wrong with the standard extractor that Remington fits - its a £15 part that is a five minute task to change IF it ever goes wrong.

I change them as a matter of course if I'm doing a rebarrel (for a new one)

I have one rifle (Rem 700) that has a Sako extractor - I wish id not bothered - brass hitting the windage turret every time i extract - waste of money.


Does it weaken the bolt head,,,, it does nothing to weaken the lugs, which is what matters.



Most custom remington "clone" actions fit a Sako style ejector of some sort so I doubt there is any issues - though none I know of send brass into the windage turret like mine does - mine was done a long time ago by the a reputable gunsmith.

 

[Offroad Gary]

M16 extractor on stiller tac 30 a/w bolt (ptg), note its got the corner missing, this is to eject the brass at an angle especially to miss big windage turrets on tactical scopes. I thought it was broken but keith (twg1) the importer confirmed it with mr stiller as his latest design feature. My rifle to was built by a reputable gunsmith..

 

[Cut+Squirt]

I have the sako M16 style extractor on my old Remington 722 actioned rifle.
It works well enough but to be honest I wouldn't change from the original.

 

[Hales Smut]

Nothing wrong with the standard extractor that Remington fits - its a £15 part that is a five minute task to change IF it ever goes wrong.

Thanks for the answers. So the ever good principle " Don't fix what isn't broken" also counts here.

 

[MARCBO]

Stupid idea.

The Remington bolt nose with the factory extractor completely surrounds the case head providing some measure of protection in the case the head ruptures on firing. In effect, there are three-rings of steel (an advertizing pitch) that surround the head, bolt nose, barrel, and receiver. If you slot the bolt for the M16 or the Sako type extractor you make a pathway for any gases to block back through the action into the shooter's face.

The USMC adopted the Remington 700 (M40) in 1968 while the Army waited until 1988 to adopt it as the M24. Since then there has not ever been a consideration to convert either the M40 or the M24 to use another extractor, it is more than adequate for military use.

The only time I convert the 700 to a Sako type is when rebuilding to chamber either the 338 Lapua or the 30 Rensi. It is only doen then because the nomnal major diameter on the 700 bolt is 0.700" and the case head on the 338L is 0.585. There is simply not enouogh meat in the remaining 0.115" (0.057" wall thickness) to install the Remington extractor

If you are working with a gunsmith that is pushing or even agrees to install the M16/Sako extractor pick up your rifle and walk out the door.

SS

 

[ejg]

good info redmist & marcbo

I've not had a problem with the original, however never had huge shot counts on my remmies before selling on.
edi

 

[Brithunter]

Remington is not the only rifle to claim the three rings of steel and I am not even sure if they were the first. Like a lot of claims they by Remington I doubt they have ever been proven. I own several rifles with this feature and none are even American.

 

[fibrewad]

REDMIST ITS A SIMPLE FIX all you have to do is take a link or two off the spring that powers the sako clip if you take a little off at a time its possible to tune it to exactly how you want it I have done a load for tactical comp guns where you get points deducted for lost cases at the end of each firing station

 

[MARCBO]

I had the fortunate experience to see 7 original 700 extractors go down over a one-week period. The seven were part of a group of 13 rifles used for military sniper training. Each of the rifles had an estimated 25,000 plus rounds fired through 3 barrels on each reciever. Round counts were verificied on the last tow barrels in each reciever, it was only the first barresl that were an unknown. From this experience I can tell you the Remington extractor is up to the task and no replacement is required, anyone that says differently will need to provide a significant dissimiliar experience to sway my opinion. Just to hedge my bets I now change extractors each time I change a barrel. Recent (1988 or so) production all have the new "spring-type" extractor that is easy to change with a little know how. Ham-fisted types can over compress the extractor and then it will not function correctly requiring another be installed.

SS

 

[Paul at Fechan]

I got one on my 375 because ejection was really poor but now it pings them out just fine

 

[MARCBO]

Paul,

Probably could have saved yourself a bunch of money having e new factory part installed but then again your gunsmith would not have made as much money....

SS

 

[UkMuntjacStalker]

Nothing wrong with the standard extractor that Remington fits - its a £15 part that is a five minute task to change IF it ever goes wrong.

I change them as a matter of course if I'm doing a rebarrel (for a new one)

I have one rifle (Rem 700) that has a Sako extractor - I wish id not bothered - brass hitting the windage turret every time i extract - waste of money.


Does it weaken the bolt head,,,, it does nothing to weaken the lugs, which is what matters.



Most custom remington "clone" actions fit a Sako style ejector of some sort so I doubt there is any issues - though none I know of send brass into the windage turret like mine does - mine was done a long time ago by the a reputable gunsmith.

Any idea who sells these for a Remington 700 (not a clone)? Have checked brownells and no joy.

 

[Ronin]

Pacific tool and guage

I have some on route from the states as I type

 

[bluesako]

ive had plenty of remmy 700,s never had a problem with any standard remington extractor and fired alot of rounds

 

[remmy243]

If you keep your brass for reloading stick with the original
Never had a problem
If you want to rake about the grass and heather wasting time looking for your brass as it gets spat out get a Sako one fitted

 

[Ronin]

The most reliable extractor is the M16 style

Rarely fails