Shotgun valuation help needed please

stratts

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#1
A good friend of mine has two shotguns he no longer uses and is wondering what their value may be if anyone may be able to help please? The only William Evans 12g on guntrader at the moment is over £4k but I have no idea if his is comparable and there are no Midland Gun Co 20g to look at,

Cheers

Stratts

1st up
William Evans side by side 12g boxlock made in 1910 - 30" barrels blueing in pretty decent nick few marks inside but it's a few years old!! Apparently William Evans got his wrists slapped for engraving 'William Evans from Purdey' on the barrels and was stopped from doing it. Original case which is a bit tatty and has some straps missing.












2nd is a Midland Gun Co side by side 20g sidelock with 28" barrels. This has had a stock repair done professionally on the top and is also in pretty good fettle.









 

Tim.243

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#2
First off pictures are nice, however what they are proofed too?

I would get a gun shop to run the gauges through them!!

That is a good starter for 10 Bamber!!

Tim.243
 
#6
Your question is not possible to answer without examining the guns. Too many potential variables could make them anything from scrap to £1K+.
For instance ejectors/non ejectors will make a big difference. 2 1/2 or 2 3/4 inch chambers? Original barrels or sleeved ?
Any stock repair on a gun of this vintage may detract from its value. Has the chequering been re-cut making the hand of the stock thin ?
Internal bore measurements and barrel wall thickness are vital to establish whether they are in proof and if so, how much wear is left in them.
Are the on the face or is there any play? If ejectors, is the timing right ? I could go on and on and on :popcorn: so, back to the top.
 

Glyn 1

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#7
Your question is not possible to answer without examining the guns. Too many potential variables could make them anything from scrap to £1K+.
For instance ejectors/non ejectors will make a big difference. 2 1/2 or 2 3/4 inch chambers? Original barrels or sleeved ?
Any stock repair on a gun of this vintage may detract from its value. Has the chequering been re-cut making the hand of the stock thin ?
Internal bore measurements and barrel wall thickness are vital to establish whether they are in proof and if so, how much wear is left in them.
Are the on the face or is there any play? If ejectors, is the timing right ? I could go on and on and on :popcorn: so, back to the top.
I agree with all of the above and would add that when you are selling prices always seem to be at rock bottom and no-one is interested; if you are looking to buy then either nothing is available or it's ridiculously overvalued!
 
#10
It's worth a hundred quid of MY money that's for sure!
I take it that £100 each ?
If the guns are in proof and all other potential sources of grief are ok...... then you would be a robber baron.

If not, then Stratt's mate should pull your arm off and you would lose your shirt. :D You wouldn't even get your money back on the leather case, complete with trade label, although you would probably come close.
 

baguio

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#12
I take it that £100 each ?
If the guns are in proof and all other potential sources of grief are ok...... then you would be a robber baron.

If not, then Stratt's mate should pull your arm off and you would lose your shirt. :D You wouldn't even get your money back on the leather case, complete with trade label, although you would probably come close.
For £100 I would take my chance Norm! Purely to do Stratts' mate a favour obviously! :lol:
 

baguio

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#17
Baguio. You are just all heart ! If you carry on like this, the charity commissioners will be trying to register you. :D
Do you know Norm, I don't know why I bother? You try to do a man a favour and it gets thrown back in your face! To be honest, it puts me off trying to help people out in the future! :lol:
 
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Glen of Imaal

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#19
Hi Stratts, as the others already said, the values will be dictated by the condition. I can however give you a little info on the William Evans. It was built by Webley and Scott, on Webley's premier A&W top screw treble grip action. This was a superbly strong action, used a lot in paradox and double rifles. Nearly all William Evan's guns at that time, both boxlock's and sidelocks, were built by Webley. There was nothing strange in this, as Webley also built guns for the likes of Rigby, Holland and Holland and Army and Navy. William Evans boxlocks don't make huge money, despite the great quality and the good name. Value wise, a very similar one with a case came up in a Holts auction in 2010. Estimate was £500-700 and it made £1200.
The Midland looks like a great quality gun. Though they have a name for making knockabout working guns, they made some high quality ones too, both sidelocks and boxlocks. Value is hard to guess, with the repairs, though the fact that it's a 20 bore sidelock would make it more desirable. I'd hazard a guess at £500-800 but that really is an unsupported guess.
 

danban

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#20
Hi stratts
I'm very keen on these.
If you get a price in mind please let me know as I may buy both.
Regards Dan


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