The responses are great thank you. Since joining the directory I've gotten the dogs booked into a 'development day' (deer tracking and recovering), almost certainly for me over the dogs, yet I didn't want to arrive too domestic. The Niggeloh look the business; practical, comfy and strong, clearly designed with the job in mind. Realdog, for made to measure could be interesting. and I knew this had to have been discussed before so thank you for that link. Teckles are tricky size for working harnesses, bless em.