Tang safety style guns

[Griggo06]

Hi there looking at my first rifle in 6.5 creedmoor.
And have come from shotguns.
I have seen the likes of the Ruger American having a tang style safety.
Are there any others like that?
I am not opposed to a different style so if you can prove that a side style safety is better then I'll change my mind.

I have also just used a sauer 202 and that an in trigger guard safety which was nice.
What are peoples views?

 

[Kjf]

Browning A bolt and X bolt have the tang safety , I have one of each

Kjf

 

[Griggo06]

Browning A bolt and X bolt have the tang safety , I have one of each

Kjf

Nice, they are in the expensive side of my price range and there new line up is odd in their website.

Do they only so the "long range" guns in 6.5 creedmoor?

It's going to a be a bit of all purpose gun for the time being. Until I get comfortable and look at a variation to .20tac or something for foxes so it'll be foxing and deer gun with the tiniest bit of paper punching.

 

[Koenig]

The Browning X Bolt has a tang shotgun style safety. I think some US rifles (Savage Axis) have them too. I like them as a rule. Very easy to go across to if you’re used to O/U shotguns. I like the operation of the Sauer 202 safety but worry that in cold weather with thick gloves it could be easy to have an ND. The Original Mauser/CZ safeties are good once you get used to them. Finally, the side safety on my T3 is positive but in my opinion on the wrong side of the bolt. It would also be better if it was three position. As oppose to two.

 

[Griggo06]

I think my plan is to go to a few shows or shops, when they happen and reopen respectively and try them out and see what I think.
The Ruger American did look nice and from the reviews and videos online a very capable system for the price.
Brownings do seem to come at a premium price.
Are they worth it?

 

[jcampbellsmith]

Hi there looking at my first rifle in 6.5 creedmoor.
And have come from shotguns.
I have seen the likes of the Ruger American having a tang style safety.
Are there any others like that?
I am not opposed to a different style so if you can prove that a side style safety is better then I'll change my mind.

I have also just used a sauer 202 and that an in trigger guard safety which was nice.
What are peoples views?

Non-std safeties are not good when you are under pressure. To me, any safety on a rifle that does not go from 'safe' to 'fire' with a forward motion of my right thumb is to be avoided. I've shot a Sauer or two, but putting the safety inside the trigger guard is daft in my book.
Regards
JCS

 

[Griggo06]

Non-std safeties are not good when you are under pressure. To me, any safety on a rifle that does not go from 'safe' to 'fire' with a forward motion of my right thumb is to be avoided. I've shot a Sauer or two, but putting the safety inside the trigger guard is daft in my book.
Regards
JCS

I agree it's what the guide had to use at the time, it was also a leftie gun and I am right handed, now that was a weird experience.

 

[Koenig]

The X Bolt is a nice rifle IMO. My mate shoots one and it’s well made and put together. It certainly shoots well. I very nearly bought one but settled on the ubiquitous Tikka T3 Lite in the end. I don’t recall the X Bolt being pricey, but it was 2013 when I was looking at options.

 

[Griggo06]

The X Bolt is a nice rifle IMO. My mate shoots one and it’s well made and put together. It certainly shoots well. I very nearly bought one but settled on the ubiquitous Tikka T3 Lite in the end. I don’t recall the X Bolt being pricey, but it was 2013 when I was looking at options.

Far less options on Browning website now it seems than a few years ago.

 

[enfieldspares]

Early Ruger M77 rifles have them, some of the old 1960s Voere centrefire rifles that were elsewise a Mauser 98 bolt system also. I'm conventional in that I don't like tang safety vatches on rifles and I don't like side safety catches as per Greener's type on side by side shotguns.

Voere on left red background and on right a Ruger M77

 

[Griggo06]

Ideally want to buy new for my first gun. Not adverse to 2nd hand down the line but first one will be new ideally.i don't want to buy it then get told itll need a re-barrel or something. Or can that happen with new guns too?

 

[Woodsmoke]

Browning A bolt and X bolt have the tang safety , I have one of each

I have the A-Bolt too. Absolutely love the position of the safety. Brilliant design

 

[enfieldspares]

Well if secondhand don't buy a Voere! Also don't buy a BRNO ZKK. Buy something that has ready availability of spares. Also I would ask why 6.5 Creedmor?

 

[Heym SR20]

To the OP, like you I grew up with shotguns, but a rifle is quite different and safety position and function is soon learned. Ver rarely do you take a snap shot with a rifle. The whole process of taking a shot is much calmer with plenty of time to take the shot and all actions are much more deliberate (or should be). I use my thumb on side safety on my rifles.

 

[Griggo06]

Well if secondhand don't buy a Voere! Also don't buy a BRNO ZKK. Buy something that has ready availability of spares. Also I would ask why 6.5 Creedmor?

For the small amount of paper punching it's a popular round. I'd like to get to shooting 1000yds consistently.

Thanks for the advice on the second hand guns.
If I could get the guns I want straight away it would be .20tac .243 .30 06
It might be the case I just get a .243 but 6.5 creedmoor has the target shooting.

 

[enfieldspares]

Ah. Got it. If it were for stalking given that we may see lead core bullets outlawed I'd have advised against anything below .30 calibre or as an absolute minimum 7mm. As going forward the 6.5mm and the 6.8mm (.270 WCF) don't offer bullets of the weight you may one day want to use in non-lead.

 

[Griggo06]

Ah. Got it. If it were for stalking given that we may see lead core bullets outlawed I'd have advised against anything below .30 calibre or as an absolute minimum 7mm. As going forward the 6.5mm and the 6.8mm (.270 WCF) don't offer bullets of the weight you may one day want to use in non-lead.

Interesting to hear about big non lead calibers I had a discussion on here about mono bullets a few weeks ago.

 

[enfieldspares]

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I'll leave this with you. I haven't watched it so don't know what the reviewer's verdict was at the end.

 

[TH4]

Non-std safeties are not good when you are under pressure. To me, any safety on a rifle that does not go from 'safe' to 'fire' with a forward motion of my right thumb is to be avoided. I've shot a Sauer or two, but putting the safety inside the trigger guard is daft in my book.
Regards
JCS

Just as a matter of interest, I am not having a dig but would be interested to know when anyone is really under pressure when shooting in the uk. Different matter hunting dangerous game but not the sort of stuff we have here.

 

[Griggo06]

Just as a matter of interest, I am not having a dig but would be interested to know when anyone is really under pressure when shooting in the uk. Different matter hunting dangerous game but not the sort of stuff we have here.

Oh we wouldn't be it's just coming from shooting an o/u shotgun that's where the safety is at for habit. If you got to take a shot and it's not there it'll be annoying I know it wouldn't take long to adapt but I'd like to have them all the same