come on lads really? go get a cold beer and watch the footie.
I'm not sure he is historically correct. The first integrated cartridges were developed in the 1800s consisting of a base with primer, a brass or paper casing and a bullet. Earlier types of "cartridge" consisted of a paper tube filled with powder and a ball at one end. The base was ripped open and the powder poured down the muzzle with the ball being rammed home using the paper as a wad. later types included a paper "cartridge" with an incorporated ball and a built in primer that was breach loaded.
On the other hand a round can be fired from a musket that has been loaded from a powder flask. Does that mean a bullet can also be called a round.
Historically you are quite correct.
However, being even more pedantic the terms 'cartridge' and 'round' have been regarded as interchangeable for many decades since the evolution of self contained ammunition. The container part is now usually referred to as a 'cartridge case'. Thankfully though a bullet has remained a bullet as opposed to a 'head'
The problem with 243 is it is both the name for a commercial cartridge and a calibre, hence the confusion, bullet diametre is a genuine 0,243" or 6,17mm.
Ian.
Hence my statement about how the term has evolved since the disbanding of the Ordnance Board in 1855. I agree entirely with your technical argument but stand by the statement that the terms 'round' and 'cartridge' have been freely interchangeable in the world of small arms for well over 100 years. Interestingly though during my years working with the MOD we never referred to self contained artillery ammunition as cartridges, only rounds.Not so much historically but technically.
Although some early paper cartridges did contain powder and shot and sometimes called "cartridge" they were still accounted for as "rounds" by the Ordnance Board. I've been professionally involved in the ammunition and explosives industry for over 30 years.
Hence my statement about how the term has evolved since the disbanding of the Ordnance Board in 1855. I agree entirely with your technical argument but stand by the statement that the terms 'round' and 'cartridge' have been freely interchangeable in the world of small arms for well over 100 years. Interestingly though during my years working with the MOD we never referred to self contained artillery ammunition as cartridges, only rounds.
Indeed we do! Interesting discourse though.But we digress.
come on lads really? go get a cold beer and watch the footie.
Does it REALLY matter!!
Use it and enjoy using it.......!!!