Thats your lot people Afghanistan is ours now

tozzybum

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Taliban have ordered woman to stay home and are blocking travel out of the country regardless of any agreements.
 

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kes

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Also beating people and executing relatives of 'collaborators'. Mr Biden must have no problem sleeping - as a result of this the next election will be 'unpleasant and Trump will have no chance.
 

boltgun

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says it all really. history repeating itself again, don't you just lurve politics but don't worry about the government they have our best interests at heart.
 

paul o'

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Another Utter waste of time and lives , another Vietnam debacle ? What did they think would happen another history lesson not learnt that we got sucked into for nowt ! nothing learnt then or now . Nothing but sorrow for the families left with pictures and endless years of hardship ahead ,shame on the pin strip suites shame on all of the powers involved. Its easy to sign life away when its not yours . You Bunch of feckless C***s.
 

JTO

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The Taliban have said that Afghan nationals will not be allowed to get to the airport, more chance to get our own out then. I wouldn't like to be on the last plane out!
Perhaps Prince Harry could become the UK ambassador in Kabul.
 

Hayduke

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Except that it needn't have been this way. The west - Biden - chose to loose.
Britain won the second and third Afghan wars B.T.W.
There are three times the number of NATO troops at Kabul airport now than were required in the country for the last few years - Providing ANA with air cover and training. Since 2014 next to no NATO casualties.
Forward Defence, it worked in Kosovo. There are currently 70,000 troops in S. Korea, what would happen if they were pulled out? Biden conjures up 'forever war' for short-term political gain, he called this one wrong, let down the west, NATO and some of the best troops in the world, humiliated and kicked out by a shower of ignorant peasants who are dictating terms.
We hold the cards, we dictate the terms. Time support Panjshir and other areas fighting against Taliban/Pak ISI.
 

308tikka

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Except that it needn't have been this way. The west - Biden - chose to loose.
Britain won the second and third Afghan wars B.T.W.
There are three times the number of NATO troops at Kabul airport now than were required in the country for the last few years - Providing ANA with air cover and training. Since 2014 next to no NATO casualties.
Forward Defence, it worked in Kosovo. There are currently 70,000 troops in S. Korea, what would happen if they were pulled out? Biden conjures up 'forever war' for short-term political gain, he called this one wrong, let down the west, NATO and some of the best troops in the world, humiliated and kicked out by a shower of ignorant peasants who are dictating terms.
We hold the cards, we dictate the terms. Time support Panjshir and other areas fighting against Taliban/Pak ISI.
Im afraid we hold no cards and havent been dictating terms for quite some time.

Advice was given to withdraw earlier, it was ignored in the hope the US would somehow stay on. Same this week - lots on the media abt how BoJo the Clown would personally intervene with Biden to ‘demand’ extension of US troops at the G7..... got told to fcuk right off.
The UK are entirely complicit in funding and training a ghost army of 300000 who were never available in these numbers but all the plans depended on whether they would fight. Leadership - the west’s placemen, unwanted by local Afghans in this foreign concept called ‘democracy’, buggered of with hundreds of millions in cash. The same people feeding UK/US leadership lies about troop numbers.

were done, all we can hope for is no casualties on the way out.
 

tozzybum

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"Twins" or clones the result is the same.
Still an isolationist America "woke" up on December 7th 1941 will an attack from their big list of enemies do the same .
China is eyeing up Taiwan, Putin hasn't finished in the Ukraine and Ping pongs Korea is starving but the South sure got a lot of nice food.
Scary times whilst uncle Joe has a nap.
 

bfltd0

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In 2001, the Taliban were effectively smashed as a fighting force in Afghanistan around three months after the Twin Towers were attacked. I would recommend Task Force Dagger by Robin Moore on how this was achieved militarily at a tactical and operational level.

Trump was intent on bringing the troops back and the West should have seen the implications of that policy way back then. It is way too late for a G7 meeting last week to ask the President to hang on for a few more days.................

Like it or not, if America, either on its own or supported by UN mandates/NATO forces, is no longer going to act as the world's policeman, the stability of the geopolitical world balance has been destabilised.

If you were China, would you now be rubbing your hands with glee while simultaneously plotting the "annexation" of Taiwan? Knowing that the Americans will probably not react. Seems Russia did it in the Crimea with no real reaction.......

Biden completely stuffed up the withdrawal phase and he has rather overtly stuck two fingers to his "allies". In doing so, he has unfortunately shown how weak the Western powers have become without the American might.
 

308tikka

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In 2001, the Taliban were effectively smashed as a fighting force in Afghanistan around three months after the Twin Towers were attacked. I would recommend Task Force Dagger by Robin Moore on how this was achieved militarily at a tactical and operational level.

Trump was intent on bringing the troops back and the West should have seen the implications of that policy way back then. It is way too late for a G7 meeting last week to ask the President to hang on for a few more days.................

Like it or not, if America, either on its own or supported by UN mandates/NATO forces, is no longer going to act as the world's policeman, the stability of the geopolitical world balance has been destabilised.

If you were China, would you now be rubbing your hands with glee while simultaneously plotting the "annexation" of Taiwan? Knowing that the Americans will probably not react. Seems Russia did it in the Crimea with no real reaction.......

Biden completely stuffed up the withdrawal phase and he has rather overtly stuck two fingers to his "allies". In doing so, he has unfortunately shown how weak the Western powers have become without the American might.
similar situation in vietnam in 75. Humiliated, weak, and unable to project power, gave enemies/rivals the opportunity to gain confidence, over extend themselves without an efficient industrial base and economy, USSR invaded Afghanistan..... supported some other rogues, and it bled them dry.
The difference is this time, the chinese have a massive industrial base, lots of money and no need to use the US Dollar.... once they stop using it to buy oil from the middle east it will be another shockwave through the established order.
Time to be realistic about who will have influence globally in the 21st century.
 

spanj

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similar situation in vietnam in 75. Humiliated, weak, and unable to project power, gave enemies/rivals the opportunity to gain confidence, over extend themselves without an efficient industrial base and economy, USSR invaded Afghanistan..... supported some other rogues, and it bled them dry.
The difference is this time, the chinese have a massive industrial base, lots of money and no need to use the US Dollar.... once they stop using it to buy oil from the middle east it will be another shockwave through the established order.
Time to be realistic about who will have influence globally in the 21st century.
It’s within our power to decrease china’s capital but everybody wants (or so it seems) their cheap crap
 

Grannysmith

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Biden is a shambling t..t and should be held to account for all the butchery that takes place now he's run away.
Should be in an old peoples home not the whitehouse
 

375 mag

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If the Taliban have any sense they'll keep letting us thick westeners take as many out of the country as possible. If i was them id want as many of my fighters on them planes for as long as possible. Roll on phase two of the Taliban assault on westeners.
 
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