The great riflescope and binocular fading light test! (A bit of fun)

ChesterP

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[FONT=&amp]A shooting friend and I were interested to see just how a cross-section of our mixed collection of mounted scopes and binoculars fared when the light started to fade, so duly set up overlooking some fields with a dark woodland fringe in front of which was a barbed wire fence strung across Larch poles some 160 yards distant. We thought it would be an interesting challenge to compare some good optics of a few years back with mid priced ones today and some pretty high end optics. We included several pairs of binoculars. Light conditions started around sun-down with plenty of ambient light left, but with light fading fast, followed by almost complete darkness by gone 7:30pm and on to 8pm.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&amp]The results were rather interesting
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[FONT=&amp]Brownie points for anyone correctly able to identify each scope and the two (of three) pairs of binoculars just on view (unfair I know!...not much to go on but lets see who gets close).[/FONT]
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[FONT=&amp]Extra brownie points for anyone correctly able to rank the performance of the optics
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[FONT=&amp]The test was two-fold:[/FONT]
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[FONT=&amp]1. To be able to pick out texture in a large tree trunk some 240 yards distant, and clearly make out the small branches;[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]2. To clearly be able to pick out the larch fencepost at 160 yards distant AND the top wire and fixings. This was a particularly good test of resolution as well as optics low light "brightness".[/FONT]
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[FONT=&amp]I won't reveal the answers just yet. Interested to see first if the optics are correctly guessed. If not, I'll fill in the blanks a little later on.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&amp]It may be of little help, but there's between £11,000 and £12,000 of kit on that table, perhaps a little more.

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BRYAN

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Chester.
Why did not give thm a proper challenge and spot the lower wires at 300m in moonlight = Swarovski.
 

Whitebeard

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I think the scopes are Nightforce NF, Nikon Monarch, Zeiss Victory, and Nightforce NXS, one set of the binos are Steiners cant tell the others.

Ian.
 
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ChesterP

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I think the scopes are Nightforce NF, Nikon Monarch, Zeiss Victory, and Nightforce NXS, one set of the binos are Steiners cant tell the others.

Ian.
Very close! :D...but no cigar. The other set of bins aren't going to be identified I think from what can be seen....so I'll give their ID...Leica 10 x 42 rangefinding binoculars. The others are indeed Steiners. There was a third pair... Opticron Discoveries (out of sight).
 
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ChesterP

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Is the 2nd scope in a Delta Titanium ?
Well done. Yes, a Delta Titanium HD, 2.5-15 x 56. An absolutely cracking scope with the best FOV of the whole lot. (Second scope in from the front).

Steiners are the Skyhawk 3.0s. Stunning optics for the money.
 
#13
Not a oops! in sight ,theres a 455 in there somewhere ,my heads hurting i,m going for a lie down,:norty:WELL DONE FOR SHARING BUT YOU WONT STOP THE TACKLE TARTS;)
 
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ChesterP

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OK. Scopes front to back:

1. Optima IR, 1" tube; very similar to early Nightforce (interesting that Whitebeard spotted that similarity);
2. Delta Titanium HD: 30mm tube: 2.5-15 x 56 IR, very fine 4a ret with adjustable intensity red dot (very fine);
3. Zeiss Victory...I believe it may have been the 3-15 illuminated 4a ret, 30mm tube; target type locking elevation dial;
4. Nightforce NSX 5.5-22 x 56 IR-NP1 floating ret with fine centre dot
5. Just out of sight was a Bushnell Elite Tactical DMR 34mm tubed LR series target scope, 3.5-21 x 50mm, mildot FFP ret.

Bins: Steiner Skyhawk 3.0, 8 x 42; Leica Rangefinder 10 x 42; Opticron Discovery 8 x 32.

Anyone care to guess which scopes won out for

1. Resolving power;
2. Field of View at 15 times magnification (all scopes were set at 15 times);
3. Brightness & "pop" of image and eye relief?
 
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mak

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OK. Scopes front to back:

1. Optima IR, 1" tube; very similar to early Nightforce (interesting that Whitebeard spotted that similarity);
2. Delta Titanium HD: 30mm tube: 2.5-15 x 56 IR, very fine 4a ret with adjustable intensity red dot (very fine);
3. Zeiss Victory...I believe it may have been the 3-15 illuminated 4a ret, 30mm tube; target type locking elevation dial;
4. Nightforce NSX 5.5-22 x 56 IR-NP1 floating ret with fine centre dot
5. Just out of sight was a Bushnell Elite Tactical DMR 34mm tubed LR series target scope, 3.5-21 x 50mm, mildot FFP ret.

Bins: Steiner Skyhawk 3.0, 8 x 42; Zeiss Rangefinder 10 x 40-something; Opticron Discovery 8 x 32.

Anyone care to guess which scopes won out for

1. Resolving power;
2. Field of View at 15 times magnification (all scopes were set at 15 times);
3. Brightness & "pop" of image and eye relief?
Zeiss don't make 40mm range finders. They looked a bit like Conquest HD bins ( which are not range finders). The Zeiss scope looked like a Diavari as it had the blue logo on the illumination turret? 3-12x56. There was a 5-15x42, but that came in an inch tube.
 
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ChesterP

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Zeiss don't make 40mm range finders. They looked a bit like Conquest HD bins ( which are not range finders). The Zeiss scope looked like a Diavari as it had the blue logo on the illumination turret? 3-12x56. There was a 5-15x42, but that came in an inch tube.

You're quite right...my bad. Just re-checked and they're Leica Binoculars (Ultravid?)....I have Zeiss on the brain! Needless to say, they weren't my pair (I had the Steiners). I have corrected the previous posts.

The rifle scope is definitely a Zeiss Victory...It is a Victory FL...I think 4-16 x 50T* IR scope (just enlarged one of my other photos from last night to get the detail!). Would I be right in assuming this was also called a "Victory Diavari"?
 
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Well on the Scope front, I'm guessing the Nightforce didn't perform that well?
However all will be revealed in good time..........
+1 on the Swarovski front, had you tested, it would be the winner....
 

ChesterP

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Well on the Scope front, I'm guessing the Nightforce didn't perform that well?
However all will be revealed in good time..........
+1 on the Swarovski front, had you tested, it would be the winner....

Why would you think that? ;) Your guess wouldn't be right. Perhaps not for the most obvious reasons though.....all in good time. I've used Swarovski scopes and tbh, found top tier Zeiss and S&B as good if not better. They're certainly not head and shoulders above some in this test, put it that way. It would be a lot closer than many would like to admit :stir:
 
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