The "Perfect" Lightweight Stalking Rifle

I hunt using both above methods , though I understand how some feel about either extreme . One old friend of mine uses a Shiloh Sharps to take game in Black Timber ( which covers a large part of the province ) every year . He is probably the best woodland stalker I know , his skill set is perfectly matched to his environment and the game he hunts . Another friend , Perry , who was pictured here holding a 200 lb Cougar Tom a while back , regularly shoots on his property out to roughly 700 yards . He also takes game out to about 500 , that's what he enjoys and he's very good at it . Both of them are far better than I am at their chosen method , I have a high amount of respect for both . They're just different ways to accomplish the same thing , I'm a little confused as to why this is a contentious issue actually . When it comes to hunting , do whatever blows your hair back and I'm all for it .

AB
It's not a contentious issue for 99% of people in the UK. An 'ethical' shot here is considered a shot you can definately make, with pretty much no risk of missing.
Tbh, I've just been enjoying teasing people who believe that unless you creep right up to an animal that doesn't even realise you're there, you're some sort of cad, or that the effective range of a 243 or 308 is no more than 150 yards.
 
I hunt using both above methods , though I understand how some feel about either extreme . One old friend of mine uses a Shiloh Sharps to take game in Black Timber ( which covers a large part of the province ) every year . He is probably the best woodland stalker I know , his skill set is perfectly matched to his environment and the game he hunts . Another friend , Perry , who was pictured here holding a 200 lb Cougar Tom a while back , regularly shoots on his property out to roughly 700 yards . He also takes game out to about 500 , that's what he enjoys and he's very good at it . Both of them are far better than I am at their chosen method , I have a high amount of respect for both . They're just different ways to accomplish the same thing , I'm a little confused as to why this is a contentious issue actually . When it comes to hunting , do whatever blows your hair back and I'm all for it .

AB

It is contentious only insofar as it is a perfect excuse for a d*ck-waving contest.


You shoot deer at 400m? You are obviously not a very good "stalker" and therefore I am better than you...

You stalk into 150m? You are obviously not a very good shot and therefore I am better than you...


In all honesty it is more than just a little pathetic.
 
It is contentious only insofar as it is a perfect excuse for a d*ck-waving contest.


You shoot deer at 400m? You are obviously not a very good "stalker" and therefore I am better than you...

You stalk into 150m? You are obviously not a very good shot and therefore I am better than you...


In all honesty it is more than just a little pathetic.
Exactly. Tbh, almost every deer I've shot was at 250. So I'm actually not a stalker or a sniper. A fraud.

I wear a lovely smock though, so that's OK right?
 
D**k waving is an ancient British tradition.

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It's nothing to be proud of really. It's usually down to inward looking and a narrow minded mindset.
 
Exactly. Tbh, almost every deer I've shot was at 250. So I'm actually not a stalker or a sniper. A fraud.

I wear a lovely smock though, so that's OK right?
Most my deer on the hill were shot at 200+.
I used a pencil barreled vanguard in 243. Reds and roe.
No bipod. 3-9 scope.
Oh, hang on, I didn't wear a smock. So that makes me a fraud!
 
I often go home empty handed ............... I must be a potential vegan.
There's always eggs and cheese mate. No need to go mad.
I know someone that suffers with veganism. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Awful condition. Brings on all manner of self importance and self righteousness. Just awful.
 
The title the OP placed on this thread .. the perfect lightweight stalking rifle .. is really about the rifle & not necessarily about the range one shoots quarry at.
How perfect the chosen rifle may be depends as much on terrain one has to walk over and the extent of field craft understanding the stalker has ... and the terrain is very varied depending on geographical location and extent of one’s ground.

Culling or stalking over a large estate in Scotland is going to be very different to taking a few deer off smaller farmland in populated areas. Therefore, it’s likely the chosen rifle and kit may be somewhat different.
Naturally the elf & safety gestapo have to an extent dictated that mods should be used, but there are those who do not & never have, needed to endure such encumberances.

For many, hunting on wild ground doesn’t often afford the luxury of a comfortable shooting position, so the best is made of what’s available at which time a bi-pod may be useful.
As to range, the hunters simply need to know and understand their’s and their rifle’s ability to be able to take the necessary shot; and make it humanely & successfully. If there’s doubt, the shot should not be taken and a re-think required.

Stalking is about skill in every aspect of the hunt, not about one’s ego.
Good luck all, with your chosen rifle and ground. Have a great 2020. :thumb:
 
Today I thought I'd take some pictures of the rigby highland at my local store. I thought ny blaser drilling was expensive but its a drop in the ocean compared to these stalking rifles.

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It is contentious only insofar as it is a perfect excuse for a d*ck-waving contest.


You shoot deer at 400m? You are obviously not a very good "stalker" and therefore I am better than you...

You stalk into 150m? You are obviously not a very good shot and therefore I am better than you...


In all honesty it is more than just a little pathetic.


Fair enough . It's just not something that comes up out here , we just live in different places I guess .

AB
 
Today I thought I'd take some pictures of the rigby highland at my local store. I thought ny blaser drilling was expensive but its a drop in the ocean compared to these stalking rifles.

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Very classic beauties, and you can find similar ones, 40 to 60 years old, used trade-ins at stores like Rigby and Westley Richards, for about the same price as a new Sako, Sauer or Mannlicher - and sometimes for a fraction of that.

No fair adding a scope to one that doesn't already have a scope. Just use it with the iron sights, and you'll probably be stalking closer than 200 yards, just as the original owners did.

As to those who think that is not necessary these days, or just an egotistic stunt ( what feat of skill isn't? ) consider using a flintlock or cap and ball rifle, just for FUN. Hunting is supposed to be an enjoyable sport.

I happen to believe that a well-rounded and accomplished sportsman has at least a little experience in many disciplines. If you ride a quarter horse and rope calves, or pack into the mountains for a hunt, you will enjoy it more if you understand and appreciate the difficulty of dressage, eventing, polo or steeplechase - even if you only humble yourself by trying it. The same is true of fishing. It's a real pleasure to stalk up to the bank and drop a fly just outside a lily pad 15 yards away. But it may be just as enjoyable to swing a cricket out there on a cork from an old rowboat, or fire a topwater plug to the same spot with a baitcasting rig, from the opposite bank, 60 yards away. No matter how good a horse, rifle, shotgun or fishing pole you have, it's practice which makes the difference, and gives you the skill to appreciate the finer tools, dogs and horses.
 
Very classic beauties, and you can find similar ones, 40 to 60 years old, used trade-ins at stores like Rigby and Westley Richards, for about the same price as a new Sako, Sauer or Mannlicher - and sometimes for a fraction of that.

No fair adding a scope to one that doesn't already have a scope. Just use it with the iron sights, and you'll probably be stalking closer than 200 yards, just as the original owners did.

As to those who think that is not necessary these days, or just an egotistic stunt ( what feat of skill isn't? ) consider using a flintlock or cap and ball rifle, just for FUN. Hunting is supposed to be an enjoyable sport.

I happen to believe that a well-rounded and accomplished sportsman has at least a little experience in many disciplines. If you ride a quarter horse and rope calves, or pack into the mountains for a hunt, you will enjoy it more if you understand and appreciate the difficulty of dressage, eventing, polo or steeplechase - even if you only humble yourself by trying it. The same is true of fishing. It's a real pleasure to stalk up to the bank and drop a fly just outside a lily pad 15 yards away. But it may be just as enjoyable to swing a cricket out there on a cork from an old rowboat, or fire a topwater plug to the same spot with a baitcasting rig, from the opposite bank, 60 yards away. No matter how good a horse, rifle, shotgun or fishing pole you have, it's practice which makes the difference, and gives you the skill to appreciate the finer tools, dogs and horses.
Definitely true with hunting, horses and fishing which have been my main hobbies my whole life.
 
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