Money makes the world go round and most stalking driven by it, goose and golden eggs springs to mind in some locations with knock on effect been negative to some neighbours.I would like those who horde permissions only for "trophy" bucks/stags dealt with (unrealistic, I know). Also, the deer industry is its own enemy in this. Charging what can amount to a fortune for some to shoot 1 deer, then have the privilege of paying for it to take it home. Ruling out multiple trips out for some, with a family and all. It was obvious that populations would outpace the model.
I am really surprised that the government hasn't stepped in to deal with the excess populations in certain areas.
Of course they have concerns. They are a charity set up to conserve deer. It's like asking the WI to consult on a govenrment strategy to regulate knitting.BDS response.
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BDS Response to the Defra Consultation on Proposed Deer Management Strategy
The BDS welcome the Deer Management Strategy consultation in general terms, however, we have serious concerns about some of the proposals.bds.org.uk
That will be the main issue, it has not been unknown for the game dealer to suspend taking in anymore deer as his dealership is rammed.It will flood the market with venison and that will limit the amount shot. then the dealers will stop taking them and the price will drop even further. I see some very tricky times ahead.
Looks like some are only intrested in the £That will be the main issue, it has not been unknown for the game dealer to suspend taking in anymore deer as his dealership is rammed.
Not sure how this will end up, maybe stop importing venison would help?
Will deer be left to rot in the field, or just not be shot, and therefore have an adverse effect on what DEFRA are trying to achieve.
Bring back the DI, I'm sure they would have a solution to all of this![]()
Maybe, but if this came to fruition it would be of great concern. Straight away I can see that causing issues with closed ticket holders. Unless they open all tickets up. They have already extended the doe season to the end of March a few years back.That’s at the minute though, I would say they are proposing to do away with night licences and make it legal for culling to be carried out at night by anybody.
^^^^^^^^^^^^14 We propose that everyone who culls deer in England has to reach the same standard.
Strongly Disagree. And who would set this standard? The British Deer Society? Or the British Association for Shooting and Conservation? With their DSC 1 or DSC 2 tests? This is allowing the creating of unregulated, by Government, private "empires". The ONLY requirement should be adequate mandatory insurance to protect third parties from injury caused by the culling operative.
Exactly. The “consultation” is just to make you feel like they’re actually listening to what you think.Ive filled it out but ,as with all Government consultations the decisions on what they want have already been made
And as for the people saying we should shorten the fallow buck season so you concentrate on the does they obviously have never shot large numbers of deer. When you shoot multiple deer from a group speed is very important so if you have to add another check ( is that a knobber on not) you will shoot alot less deer. And I also have ground that has lots of fallow on and in all the years of shooting it have never seen a doe. That farmer is going to be very happy about not being able to shoot them while I'm looking for a doe that's not been there in the last 10 years.
Knobber can be given a sex change in the larder, does happen but in the interests of the greater good.And as for the people saying we should shorten the fallow buck season so you concentrate on the does they obviously have never shot large numbers of deer. When you shoot multiple deer from a group speed is very important so if you have to add another check ( is that a knobber on not) you will shoot alot less deer. And I also have ground that has lots of fallow on and in all the years of shooting it have never seen a doe. That farmer is going to be very happy about not being able to shoot them while I'm looking for a doe that's not been there in the last 10 years.
Shouldn't have to because of bad policyKnobber can be given a sex change in the larder, does happen but in the interests of the greater good.
I don’t think it’s that, it’s that most will not shoot deer without an outlet for the carcasses. Some would no doubt be happy enough to shoot then to let them rot in the fields and woods as ‘vermin’ but the majority wouldn’t.Looks like some are only intrested in the £
What would be your view of shooting on the basis of Section 7, in this situation?And I also have ground that has lots of fallow on and in all the years of shooting it have never seen a doe. That farmer is going to be very happy about not being able to shoot them while I'm looking for a doe that's not been there in the last 10 years.