Varget - what are you using now.

purdeydog

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Well that’s the last of my varget gone. I was using varget for .220 swift 40g and .308 185g.

So quick question. For those that have switched from varget, (for those outside the UK we can’t get varget anymore) What are you using now and for what bullet?

Many thanks.
 
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Malxwal

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RS52 for the 308, although not sure if it is suitable for heavies. Also going to try it under 130gr TMKs in the 47, as the RS62 isnt quite giving the velocity I thought it would.
Will be trying RS62 under 150 Gamekings in the 30-06.
RS52 under 55gr Sierra HPBT in 22-250.
 

Laurie

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RS52 for the 308, although not sure if it is suitable for heavies.
It is. FTR and MR competitors use it with bullets up to 215gn. I did an evaluation of an initial sample lot of the powder in the pre Reload Swiss brand days when it's unofficial nickname was Elcho-15 against Alliant Re15 and H. VarGet using identical charges with the 190gn Berger VLD. It coped as well with this bullet as the two existing propellants and outperformed both a little.
 

nun_hunter

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Some good replies. Cheers. Too much choice. Wish there there one powder that did the lot lol
This is very true and hopefully @Laurie can shed some light on this.

Is there a check list of ideal attributes when choosing a powder ie the 'best' powder will be as close to 100% case fill, 100% burn, lowest pressure for a given velocity, quickest/slowest burn rate (not sure which is best), most/least grains used etc. Not taking into account cost and availability as these can often change.
 

army-medic

Active Member
This is very true and hopefully @Laurie can shed some light on this.

Is there a check list of ideal attributes when choosing a powder ie the 'best' powder will be as close to 100% case fill, 100% burn, lowest pressure for a given velocity, quickest/slowest burn rate (not sure which is best), most/least grains used etc. Not taking into account cost and availability as these can often change.
There are powder burn charts that give you a good idea of an equivalent in regards to burn rate.

Fill ratios and the like are probably best obtained via quickload- I wish they’d make a Mac version of the software; I’d buy it immediately.
 

nun_hunter

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I know there are burn rate charts and QL will give case fills etc but is there an optimum to aim for? For example if two powders give equal pressure and velocity but one burns faster than the other is there a reason to choose either powder based solely on burn rate? Is one more aggressive to barrels, is one more likely to be affected by temp or pressure etc? If pressure and velocity are equal between two powders is it better to have a 100% or slightly compressed load rather than an 85% fill?

Are there generic golden threads we should be aiming to achieve to give us the best outcomes in performance and consistency?
 

purdeydog

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Managed to chrono my bullets recently and had some interesting results, I thought so anyway.

I use two home loads for my 308 with 26” barrel. One for hunting 165SST with N140 and the other for plinking 185 Bergers with varget.

The 165SST gave me an average mv of 2651 FPS with ES of 29 FPS over five shots. Ballistic app having trued my data in load development gave 2672fps.

The Bergers gave me average MV of 2657 with a ES of 33 FPS over 5 shots. Ballistic app having trued my data in load development gave 2663fps.

Hardly anything in it. And interesting to see the app wasn’t far out for the MV it calculated with the fall of shots I had entered compared to the chrono mv. So I think ill stick with the N140 as a replacement for the varget.
 

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