venison prices to the resturant trade

[Olaf]

Hi, does anyone know how much the game dealers charge when they sell on their Venison to the restaurants and gastro pubs. I know that the supermarkets all charge silly money per KG but I was wondering what the trade rate is for the meat.
A friend is starting a food related outlet just asked me and I didn't know the answer.

Kind regards, Olaf

 

[CWMMAN3738]

Pub by me pays £20/kg for farmed red fillet, the farm retails it at £25-30/kg in its shop.

Hi, does anyone know how much the game dealers charge when they sell on their Venison to the restaurants and gastro pubs. I know that the supermarkets all charge silly money per KG but I was wondering what the trade rate is for the meat.
A friend is starting a food related outlet just asked me and I didn't know the answer.

Kind regards, Olaf

 

[Olaf]

Ah ! Interesting. Thanks for your reply. Any one else have any thoughts on this ?

 

[Lloyd90]

Yer, they pay stalker's £1 a kg and sell it for £20+ kg ... I know they have bills etc but sound's like they are making a lot of money ... How much would a butcher pay in KG for beef and sell it for I wonder ?

 

[Pedro]

Sounds like a call for a stalker's union?

 

[jubnut]

Yer, they pay stalker's £1 a kg and sell it for £20+ kg ... I know they have bills etc but sound's like they are making a lot of money ... How much would a butcher pay in KG for beef and sell it for I wonder ?

They make £20 a kilo for fillet. What percentage of the carcass is fillet compared to skin and bone for which they have to pay to dispose of? What do they get for haunch? Shoulder? Minced trim? How much do they pay the man that cuts the carcass up? They aren't making as much as it seems.

 

[Lloyd90]

They make £20 a kilo for fillet. What percentage of the carcass is fillet compared to skin and bone for which they have to pay to dispose of? What do they get for haunch? Shoulder? Minced trim? How much do they pay the man that cuts the carcass up? They aren't making as much as it seems.

Fair point mate, what's I said I wonder ha. Either way, prefer to keep a any venison for the freezer , but maybe that's just because I don't get a lot spare.

 

[jubnut]

Yup. When you look at the price of any meat in the supermarket I always think venison is worth more to me in my freezer than sold to the game dealer.

 

[david1976]

When I sell my venison on to customers, I price it to sell it straight away so im not holding onto a freezer full.

I aim to get my money back plus double that so if I pay £40 for a beast, I would look to sell for £120.

This makes £80 profit plus my £40 back.

 

[1066kieran]

They aren't behind the door and will be doing alright for themselves thank you very much. You only have to look what they charge for other game on the menu. By the time a restaurant is done with a carcass there will be very little waste to dispose of.

 

[CWMMAN3738]

Squirrel is worse than venison my local paid £6.35 each for them from a game dealer earlier in he year, don't know what the game dealer pays, & pigeon breasts used to cost her over a £1

 

[Olaf]

Yup. When you look at the price of any meat in the supermarket I always think venison is worth more to me in my freezer than sold to the game dealer.

I heartily agree with you.

 

[Taff]

hope he,s done a bit more homework than asking his mates, game dealers buy in the skin, so take a fallow, take off half of the weight for bone, skin etc, then half again for your sausage mince etc, and you are left with two saddles ( true fillets in deer are very small) a chump steak joint and two haunches, now work out what it has cost to get to this. where as a stalker I spent a £10 on fuel, £3 on ammo ( yes I shot two ) and took home £190 had a good morning out. why am I complaining ?

 

[Monkey Spanker]

About £24/kg for decent loin fillet. About half that for anything else.
MS

 

[sikamalc]

I remember last Christmas visiting, I think it was Sainsburys and found some pre packed venison for sale. If I remember rightly it worked out at over £50 per kilo!!

 

[basil]

Something to remember. When you are paid by the game dealer it`s tax free ...... for now.

 

[6pointer]

The price we get from the game dealer is set by ourselves and the Government. If you wanted more for your deer then you would need the EFC and FCS to work out higher prices.

 

[CWMMAN3738]

Not always I know someone very close to you that was traced by inland revenue from a game dealers accounts & had to prove that their wasn't a profit in their stalking, don't know the details but it was classed as income by IR apparently. I can see it going the same way as the scrap metal trade soon & don't think that will be all bad.

Something to remember. When you are paid by the game dealer it`s tax free ...... for now.

 

[Numpty]

Having been a Game Dealer in the past I know first hand the cost of processing a deer which could well include collection, storage, processing, packaging and then storage again. There is then the cost of delivery and on some of my bigger accounts, no payment for 90 days. I processed park deer, hill deer and individual stalkers deer and over all, if you could make a 30% profit that was good. The waste on some carcasses can be high and only by making my own sausages and burgers helped keep the margins. Lastly, the cost of waste disposal is a factor many do not see but it all adds up. Incidentally, I recorded the source of every beast I processed for traceability and anti poaching measures.

 

[bewsher500]

compared to skin and bone for which they have to pay to dispose of? .

then they should probably think of ways to make money from it!!
plenty of industries that buy and SELL carcase waste from butchers and make a fine trade from it.
your dog food is made from it!
as is the high protein fish food, fertilizer etc etc

Surely if your mate is setting up a retail business it would have made sense to ask the customers before he set up.
I would want to know if there was a local, regional market for my product and what margins were involved before I went through the HSE Food hoops to set up.

IMO proper restaurants should be buying on the bone.
saves you mate time and money
they get the cuts they want and they can use the bones