Viper-Flex v Stable Sticks
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Viper-flex?? I have been using the greatly steadying influence of sticks - both home made AND proprietary - for just about ALL of my vermin bashing days (lota, lota years!) and wouldn't willingly enter the field without them except for Competative range-work and/or load development from the bench. Have never heard of these "Vipers"? Could you illuminate for this old boy please??
ATB ..... and shoot safely.
ATB ..... and shoot safely.
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Bushwear are selling he Seeland quad sticks for £50, the Vipers are £200 and the Stables are around £100 (unless you feel the need for carbon fiber).
My advice would be buy a set of Bushwears and see how you get on with them, if Sticks-R-U then you will sell the Bushys' on here (quite easily I would think) @ £25/£30 and then you can shell out £200 for a set of Viper Styx (which are 'better' but in my opinion, not 4 times better).
My advice would be buy a set of Bushwears and see how you get on with them, if Sticks-R-U then you will sell the Bushys' on here (quite easily I would think) @ £25/£30 and then you can shell out £200 for a set of Viper Styx (which are 'better' but in my opinion, not 4 times better).
Thanks Miki. I don't mind buying once and crying once if the vipers are going to last.
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I got a set of Viper sticks before Christmas having used wooden ones and home made quad sticks for some years. I got them because you can break them down and put them in a flight case and because of the wide front rest which allows you to track.
They have been out on four occasions so far and have accounted for 6 deer. I have been very pleased with them - the ability to track a deer without having to move the feet is very good. They are very stiff and stable. They are a bit of a fist full to carry but light enough and fine when you get used to them. Very fast to deploy which is a bonus with Muntjac and Roe. You do need to cut and adjust the plastic C section on each leg when you get the height set otherwise you get the wind whistling through the adjustment holes, but that's what the C sections are there for.
I can't comment on how they compare with Sealand or Stable as I have never used them, but I'm very happy with the Vipers.
They have been out on four occasions so far and have accounted for 6 deer. I have been very pleased with them - the ability to track a deer without having to move the feet is very good. They are very stiff and stable. They are a bit of a fist full to carry but light enough and fine when you get used to them. Very fast to deploy which is a bonus with Muntjac and Roe. You do need to cut and adjust the plastic C section on each leg when you get the height set otherwise you get the wind whistling through the adjustment holes, but that's what the C sections are there for.
I can't comment on how they compare with Sealand or Stable as I have never used them, but I'm very happy with the Vipers.
Is it the standard set you have, or the traveller with the partial carbon fibre build?
I think they call them the Journey sticks, certainly part carbon.
Uncle Buck
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I’ve used 4 stable bush light for a few years find them great ( I’ve also
used hazel single,double.Vanguard (double), Primo (3 leg bloody things kept sticking) here’s an insight into the
Stable sticks hope it helps.
www.gunsweek.com
PS not knocking the viper but the a hefty wad for what you get.
Good luck whichever route you choose
Buck
used hazel single,double.Vanguard (double), Primo (3 leg bloody things kept sticking) here’s an insight into the
Stable sticks hope it helps.
4 Stable Stick, the versatile all-purpose hunting rifle sticks
Manufactured in France and developed in close collaboration with a team of seasoned hunters, the 4 Stable Stick line of hunting rifle supports are perfect for both mountain or driven hunt, and among the world's most solid and versatile products in this segment
www.gunsweek.com
PS not knocking the viper but the a hefty wad for what you get.
Good luck whichever route you choose
Buck
Cheers. Looks like there's only a 50gm weight saving through the use of carbon. Would have thought it would be more.
I can see the benefit of them packing down small, but guess for my needs I'd be better with the standard, which should hopefully be stiffer as less sections.
Novice
I can see the benefit of them packing down small, but guess for my needs I'd be better with the standard, which should hopefully be stiffer as less sections.
Novice
FISH BOY
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Big fan of vipers too, awesome stability and stalking aid. Single, bi pod for a steady quick shot and the quad for pinpoint, use nothing else now.
Ive got the journeys and standard and cant believe its only 50gs as the difference is noticable.
Used up to 600m on a range days with great success
Standards for sale if anyones interested.
Ive got the journeys and standard and cant believe its only 50gs as the difference is noticable.
Used up to 600m on a range days with great success
Standards for sale if anyones interested.
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Can't speak of the Viper jobbies .. far too spendy for me to consider, but a very good friend gave me a set of the 4-Stable sticks a couple or 3 years back and I've got to say they are just the ticket in my book. The front is wide enough to allow a little tracking, but I prefer to swivel them on one leg and then plant it solidly again for the shot. This has lead to the one downfall of the things in that on soft ground this action drives the 'foot' of the leg into the ground like a dart. I remedied this by simply grinding the pointed aluminium feet almost flat, drilling them, and tapping them M6. I then added my own mud feet by using ny-lock nuts and discs of 3mm thick Kydex on little bits of M6 studding screwed tight into the feet. Works a treat 
FISH BOY
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Can't speak of the Viper jobbies .. far too spendy for me to consider, but a very good friend gave me a set of the 4-Stable sticks a couple or 3 years back and I've got to say they are just the ticket in my book. The front is wide enough to allow a little tracking, but I prefer to swivel them on one leg and then plant it solidly again for the shot. This has lead to the one downfall of the things in that on soft ground this action drives the 'foot' of the leg into the ground like a dart. I remedied this by simply grinding the pointed aluminium feet almost flat, drilling them, and tapping them M6. I then added my own mud feet by using ny-lock nuts and discs of 3mm thick Kydex on little bits of M6 studding screwed tight into the feet. Works a treat
sounds like a plan.
Was up for a shot over a wet boggy ploughed field last week when one leg did exactly that. Doe looked over her shoulder at me as if to say muppet as she wandered off.
Viper-Flex | DANISH-MADE SHOOTING STICKS
www.viper-flex.com
There you go.
Thank you 'Novice'... I was wondering what on earth could have been invented that gives in the field, quickly deployable stability that wasn't like a bipod type mechanism, and now I know. Look kinda complex but I see from others' comments that they deploy quickly as per my bipod sticks, and do look like they would provide further stability. Very clever design, but now that I have used adjustable sticks for many years of my shooting career and use them like second nature, I will stick with what I know. For those with a penchant for new, useful "toys" and deep pockets though, looks like the way to go.
ATB ...... and shoot safely
stalker.308
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Exactly the same experience as you, and very pleased. Bipod has come off mine and I don’t go out without them now.
1980floppy25
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I have had most sets of sticks and I can not speak highly enough of the vipers rock solid easy to use and built to last not like others. Pay once cry once not buy cheap buy twice
Viper Flex sticks are really well built, much more stable than the sea land quad sticks and other cheap versions. The construction includes welded hinge brackets and high density injection moulded components. They also have a one handed opening handle and rubber coated from and rear saddles to protect and grip your rifle. Sealand sticks rattle loose after a few outings, or the brittle plastic breaks. Viper Flex are expensive but that’s for a reason. As others have said, buy once, cry once. Journey are a little less noisy as they have carbon mid tubes. They’re also slightly warmer to touch in winter. For the extra £90, I’d just go with the elite model, not the journey.
sounds like a plan.
Was up for a shot over a wet boggy ploughed field last week when one leg did exactly that. Doe looked over her shoulder at me as if to say muppet as she wandered off.
It was Charlie that prompted the move on my part. The sticks suddenly gave way under the rifle a couple of weeks back just as I squeezed the 'go lever' on a fox at about 250yds. Inspection after the resulting unfortunate miss showed that the sticks had stuck in and fallen through into a mouse or mole run about 4" under the surface. I don't normally reckon to miss a fox at that range and educate them to the lamp. I get inventive when I get cross
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