Voluntary restraint for waterfowl shooting in Scotland

Conor O'Gorman

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Due to the widespread severe weather, BASC is calling for people who shoot in Scotland to exercise restraint, wherever it is needed, in the shooting of ducks, geese and waders including reared mallard.

Under criteria agreed between BASC and the relevant government agencies today, 10 January, has been classified as the seventh consecutive day of severe conditions in many parts of Scotland. Areas particularly affected are Aberdeenshire, Moray and the Highlands.

An alert has been issued according to procedures for managing the shooting of waterfowl in adverse weather. The decision to show restraint in shooting should be made by individuals and be based on local observations of the condition of the birds and their habitats. Further guidance is available here on our website.

There is currently no overall call for voluntary restraint in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, but it should still be applied where feeding and roosting are affected by snow and ice.

If the freezing conditions were to persist, then it is likely that decisions will be taken by the Scottish government to impose a statutory suspension of waterfowl shooting, at the earliest on 18 January, which would last for up to 14 days. This should be reviewed after seven days and could be lifted if conditions improve.

Although the forecast for much of Scotland predicts a thaw over the coming weekend, please continue to monitor our website for updates should freezing conditions return. In all cases, please show consideration and exercise restraint where appropriate in areas still affected by severe weather.
 
I’m not for or against, just curious, what is the purpose of this “restraint”. How is it different from usual restraint when out shooting?
 
I’m sure in the days of BB, his interpretation of current conditions would be completely normal and much prolonged periods I’m sure in his day didn’t call for any restraint.
 
Severe weather? It’s a normal winter as a winter should be. If this is severe, you should see winters in Alaska!

I’m sure in the days of BB, his interpretation of current conditions would be completely normal and much prolonged periods I’m sure in his day didn’t call for any restraint.
The severe weather protocol (for typically persistent freezing conditions) has been in place for decades and is set by criteria set out here:


Far better I think to have voluntary measures in place first as conditions can vary significantly across a country rather than entering pre-maturely into one size fits all statutory shooting bans across the country, as once was the case.

In December 2022 we had a call for voluntary restraint in England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales


In January 2021 we had a call for voluntary restraint in Scotland

 
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So err how do waterfowl go on in Scandinavia?
Much colder there no?
I've seen duck flying around at night and in the day. They don't seem to be starving one bit.

Is this one of these pr stunt thingies that actually admits to wokies that shooting folk agree shooting is cruel?
I heard some shoot end with duck flighting as darkness fell. So what....
 
So err how do waterfowl go on in Scandinavia?
Much colder there no?
I've seen duck flying around at night and in the day. They don't seem to be starving one bit.

Is this one of these pr stunt thingies that actually admits to wokies that shooting folk agree shooting is cruel?
I heard some shoot end with duck flighting as darkness fell. So what....
Waterfowl migrate away from severe weather in Europe and internationally annually and have done so for eons. The UK is a final refuge for many in winter. Back and forth they go. It's well studied and if you wish to go against the science and protocols put in place by WAGBI and BASC for decades then you just further place yourself into .flat earth' territory which is a pity given your obvious deep connection with the countryside and sustainable shooting from your various posts.
 
Waterfowl migrate away from severe weather in Europe and internationally annually and have done so for eons. The UK is a final refuge for many in winter. Back and forth they go. It's well studied and if you wish to go against the science and protocols put in place by WAGBI and BASC for decades then you just further place yourself into .flat earth' territory which is a pity given your obvious deep connection with the countryside and sustainable shooting from your various posts.
My Dad switched from the Farm (cow man) like Grandad to building in the early 50's
Those winters were so cold the pheasant's used to come in the barn after any scraps of cow cake flaked barley with no fear of man they were so hungry. Breast bones like a razor is how Dad described them no different for the Ducks.

The days of sending what you had shot to market or on the train to London are long gone, reading replies it seems that the young boys who should have taken notice of the stories clearly were not listening.
 
Waterfowl migrate away from severe weather in Europe and internationally annually and have done so for eons. The UK is a final refuge for many in winter. Back and forth they go. It's well studied and if you wish to go against the science and protocols put in place by WAGBI and BASC for decades then you just further place yourself into .flat earth' territory which is a pity given your obvious deep connection with the countryside and sustainable shooting from your various posts.
I haven't shot a duck all season. Or goose this year, could of but didn't.
I don't think every duck leaves Europe does it?
 
@Tim.243 @Smellydog the severe weather and waterfowl shooting protocol is below and if you disagree with it that is your choice to do so.

I am not disagreeing I am for it, I was giving examples so please go back in the thread and read what I wrote as a chap did not understand (I DO). I will except any form of an apology via text or telepathy :tiphat:
 
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