Waterproof jacket

Kernow Stalker

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I’ve been on our syndicate pheasant shoot today and it’s ****ed down all day. I wore a seeland woodcock jacket and after 30 minutes I was soaked through. Any recommendations on jackets that will keep me dry for the day.
Tia
 
Paramo Halcon. I wear mine for game shooting, dog walking, stalking...... it’s the only jacket I can honestly say has never let any water in. It has great pockets, armpit vents, hand warmer pockets and a superb hood with wired peak so it’s ideal for shooting. It’s quiet for stalking, but I’ve sewn a grip strip on the shoulder as it’s a bit slippy for a sling.

They need to be washed and reproofes according to the instructions, but I’ve had mine for five years now. In that time it’s been nicked by barbed wire, which you can simply sew up as it doesn’t depend on a membrane, the zip eventually wore out and I wore a couple of patches down on the elbows. Paramo replaces the front zip and replaced the entire back panel, plus a couple of patches here and there for 90 quid.

They ain’t cheap, at 300 quid (a bit less for the almost identical pajaro) but boy are they money well spent.
 
Paramo Halcon. I wear mine for game shooting, dog walking, stalking...... it’s the only jacket I can honestly say has never let any water in. It has great pockets, armpit vents, hand warmer pockets and a superb hood with wired peak so it’s ideal for shooting. It’s quiet for stalking, but I’ve sewn a grip strip on the shoulder as it’s a bit slippy for a sling.

They need to be washed and reproofes according to the instructions, but I’ve had mine for five years now. In that time it’s been nicked by barbed wire, which you can simply sew up as it doesn’t depend on a membrane, the zip eventually wore out and I wore a couple of patches down on the elbows. Paramo replaces the front zip and replaced the entire back panel, plus a couple of patches here and there for 90 quid.

They ain’t cheap, at 300 quid (a bit less for the almost identical pajaro) but boy are they money well spent.
Sounds great, I’ll have a look
 
I’ve been on our syndicate pheasant shoot today and it’s ****ed down all day. I wore a seeland woodcock jacket and after 30 minutes I was soaked through. Any recommendations on jackets that will keep me dry for the day.
Tia
Paramo Halcon. I wear mine for game shooting, dog walking, stalking...... it’s the only jacket I can honestly say has never let any water in. It has great pockets, armpit vents, hand warmer pockets and a superb hood with wired peak so it’s ideal for shooting. It’s quiet for stalking, but I’ve sewn a grip strip on the shoulder as it’s a bit slippy for a sling.

They need to be washed and reproofes according to the instructions, but I’ve had mine for five years now. In that time it’s been nicked by barbed wire, which you can simply sew up as it doesn’t depend on a membrane, the zip eventually wore out and I wore a couple of patches down on the elbows. Paramo replaces the front zip and replaced the entire back panel, plus a couple of patches here and there for 90 quid.

They ain’t cheap, at 300 quid (a bit less for the almost identical pajaro) but boy are they money well spent.
I also have one of these paramo coats they are well worth it. I I have had mine for eight years now and the key to keep in waterproof is regularly washing and waterproof with nikwax
 
So I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. There is no such thing as a waterproof jacket that will keep you dry. Sure there are many that will keep the rain out and some do this very well, but what runs along side this is you WILL sweat (a lot) so you get wet. However breathable they claim to be you will still sweat. Scientifically if something won’t let moisture in (rain) then it will clearly lock in moisture and sweat and not let any out.
The best you can hope for is a compromise I choose G1000 and ventile but you will still get wet either internally or externally.
If you really want a great waterproof outer covering you will never beat a bin liner opened up this will keep the rain out guaranteed. But you will sweat exceptionally well
 
The trick is to use layering. A quality wicking baselayer will shift moisture away from your skin. Yes, if you really exert yourself you're going to sweat, no-one is claiming the contrary. However, if you mitigate this with a fabric next to your skin which is designed to transport moisture outwards, then it's far better than say a cotton undershirt that will simply trap moisture and create a wet layer.

The trouble with membrane systems like Sympatex, Goretex, Ventile et al is that they have a finite working life. The membrane will eventually break down and fail, especially if it isn't treated correctly. The quality of the membrane and construction of the jacket may mitigate that, extending its life, but it will not prevent the finite limit of the coat's effectiveness. Nikwaz Analogy fabric has no membrane. It depends on its construction to shift water outwards. Washing with the correct soap at the correct temperature and regularly treating with DWP means that the fabric remains waterproof. Its breathability is partly down to ventilation. The Halcon has a storm flap under the zip, which can be poppered and the zip put to halfway. The rain can't get in, but hot moist air can get out. It also has six inch zips on the upper arms to vent, which really make a difference.

I've got a Paramo smock that I bought second hand about 8 years ago. It's still waterproof.
 
The trick is to use layering. A quality wicking baselayer will shift moisture away from your skin. Yes, if you really exert yourself you're going to sweat, no-one is claiming the contrary. However, if you mitigate this with a fabric next to your skin which is designed to transport moisture outwards, then it's far better than say a cotton undershirt that will simply trap moisture and create a wet layer.

The trouble with membrane systems like Sympatex, Goretex, Ventile et al is that they have a finite working life. The membrane will eventually break down and fail, especially if it isn't treated correctly. The quality of the membrane and construction of the jacket may mitigate that, extending its life, but it will not prevent the finite limit of the coat's effectiveness. Nikwaz Analogy fabric has no membrane. It depends on its construction to shift water outwards. Washing with the correct soap at the correct temperature and regularly treating with DWP means that the fabric remains waterproof. Its breathability is partly down to ventilation. The Halcon has a storm flap under the zip, which can be poppered and the zip put to halfway. The rain can't get in, but hot moist air can get out. It also has six inch zips on the upper arms to vent, which really make a difference.

I've got a Paramo smock that I bought second hand about 8 years ago. It's still waterproof.
I have just started layering and wish I had of went that way years ago. It is definitely the way to go.
 
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