Wet tumbling

Marine PMI, if you want to do the best for your hi dollar gun why not buy factory ammo? You'll probably be able to shoot the barrel out with the ammo you could buy instead of all the trinkets.
As for me, primer pockets don't get clean apart from a blast through with compressed air. The Federal cases still have tight pockets after all their reloading, absolutely no lub on the cases to clean off and as for checking the case before pressing in the bullet, my bullets are popped in as soon as the powder goes in.
Sorry I don't buy this clean everything dictum, my new cases are kept in plastic holsters go from there into the mag or straight into the chamber in the case of my single shots and the pic of my 30/30 case is how it looks after the 4th discharge ie 5th reloading.
Don't got a porsche, got a couple mercedes and they get supermarket gas, this is an image of one of them.
Factory ammo doesn't always come in the weight and velocity I want for competition, so reloading just the path I go. Never mind that when competing, 300rds for a two day match is much palatable to load for, rather than buy (cost wise), and with bulk components, the "lot" is always the same. A lot of guys buy 3000 bullets when they buy their replacement barrels, specifically for that reason; no waste in barrel life re-zeroing with each new lot of ammo.

As far as cases staying in the pocket, magazine or plastic boxes; yeah, that doesn't happen in competition, with par time 12 rd stages. Especially when they're as short 1:45 to get in position, on target and get off 12rds at up to 5 or 6 different targets/ranges. Not to mention the differences between an rather anemic rimed cartridge, compared to a modern, high pressure bottle neck cartridge.

Finally, as to the Mercedes (my twin brother has that exact same car BTW) on Supermarket gas...well, your car, your decision. Doesn't make it the wisest one, but definitely your decision.

My wife's Toyota gets cheap supermarket low grade gas; it doesn't warrant (or need) it. But my other two vehicles are both four cylinder, direct inject turbos, and there's no way I'd be foolish enough to run mid or low grade fuel in them. That's just not what they were designed to run on.
 
As long as you don’t shoot a .257 or a 6.5 as they stick in the neck like buggery!
This is indeed an problem...initially. After about 2-3 runs though, and finding the offending, over sized pins, and tossing them out, the pins cease to be a problem. Though recently I have been playing around with no pins (just car wash soap with a polymer wax and lemishine/citric acid) and they turn out almost as clean.
 
This is indeed a problem...initially. After about 2-3 runs though, and finding the offending, over sized pins, and tossing them out, the pins cease to be a problem. Though recently I have been playing around with no pins (just car wash soap with a polymer wax and lemishine/citric acid) and they turn out almost as clean.
The 5.55s also have a habit of serving themselves across the base of .22 hornet cases internally.

I use these now for 6.5 and below


And use the 5.55s for .280 and the 30s
 
Sorry to be a Luddite but why do you tumble your cases?
I have some Federal brass in 308 that is now about 13 loads average overall old and I've yet to clean them. I think any form of abrasive cleaning is detrimental, especially riving out the primer pockets.
As I only neck size the cases don't stretch much and, looking back thru my log I've only trimmed them twice.
I recently, for my 30/30, started running the cases thru the full length sizing die but set so the shoulder isn't set back at all, basically because I couldn't get a collet die. I will extend this practice to my 308 and 223 ammo next bunch of reloading I undertake as the neck tension appears much improved.
I've set it up on the 30/30 so that the die comes within about 1mm of the neck, should be an image hereabouts showing one of my dirty cases (4th reload btw) neck sized like that.
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I have never done brass tumbling - I just wipe off any mud, blood, soot etc. with a tissue then deprime, neck size and reload. I test shot dirty brass comparing it to nice new shiny brass with identical loads and there was no difference on the target.. After about ten reloads some of the brass swells enough to need full length sizing in which case I just use RCBS lube then when I have done all the cases I wipe out the gunk from the sizing die with a tissue on a chamber rod and wipe the lube off the brass with meths. Here's an example of the results of this dirty brass regime ten consecutive v bulls with my Tikka M55. It's not quite F class level but good enough for my amateur activities.
 

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I use 1mm x 8mm stainless pins. About 5kg of the buggers. Though I am tumbling a lot in each batch.
I resize and decap with a lanolin/IPA spray. That leaves the cases greasy. So they then get a wash with paraffin and left to drain/dry.
Then into the tumber, with boiling water, some washing up liquid and dishwasher rince aid.

I still need to come up with a bulk way of separating the media afterwards. At the mo I manually rinse off and shake the pins out in a bucket of warm water. Then leave them out to dry on a sheet in the sun. Or in a basket over the woodburner, weather dependent.

If you tumble mixed cases, you need to be careful about what combinations you make. When cases get jammed with dry tumbling media it's a pain.With stainless pins they are locked up solid.

Cases come out clean, but dull. I do tumble for an hour or so.
 
Thank you, I’ve some of that coming with the tumbler to try too
I think I have the same one you have bought but apparently the shot that comes with the tumbler isn’t right good I haven’t use mine I bought my ss shot from ebay about four years ago 👍
 
I think I have the same one you have bought but apparently the shot that comes with the tumbler isn’t right good I haven’t use mine I bought my ss shot from ebay about four years ago 👍
More than likely given the price of the tumbler. I’ve got some of the pins on order. Any issues with those and I’ll try the balls
 
More than likely given the price of the tumbler. I’ve got some of the pins on order. Any issues with those and I’ll try the balls
More than likely not to be stainless. Mine came and they rusted after first use.
So I had already ordered some stainless pins and added them to the balls that came with the unit.

Oh did I have fun separating the non stainless balls from the stainless pins after my first run 🙄
 
More than likely not to be stainless. Mine came and they rusted after first use.
So I had already ordered some stainless pins and added them to the balls that came with the unit.

Oh did I have fun separating the non stainless balls from the stainless pins after my first run 🙄
I shouldn’t find that as funny as I do 😂
 
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