jthyttin
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You missed out the other points of the post....!!
I was replying to the false implication made by you.
EDIT: statement -> implication
What is the fascination with short barrels in the UK
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I was replying to the false implication made by you.
EDIT: statement -> implication
The RPA woodland stalker is a similar thing to the Ratel. Not at all unbalanced. Heavy though. Shoot off sticks, as we do, or offhand using a sling properly and they are perfect. TBH a bog standard Howa with a 20" heavy barrel is as good, get it cut shorter, even better.
B+N will sell you one as the "Contractor", bedded Bell and Carlson stock and trigger tune are the additions AFAIK.
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So would you chop
What made you change your quote from FALSE to Implied.............?
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stevenedwards
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Ive only use the Pfeifer on either quad sticks or a bipod, don't know how it would balance on a two or three leg stick. One thing it is not is very light, i would have to weigh it to put a figure on it but it feels solid. I find it best in the field on a short - sitting - quad stick from limulus. For zeroing and practice I seem to get on better with a bipod and rolled up coat rather than bags. whilst not relevant to the discussion it definitely needs a fouled barrel to give its best.I definitely find light, short barrelled rifles are less stable shooting off my tripod sticks than longer barrelled rifles that have some weight forward of the cradle. My old heavy barrelled CF2 (no mod) was an almost perfect stick rifle. The balance was perfect, I could practically take my hands of it and it would stay balanced on the tripod. There was no weaving or waving, little wind buffeting and 200 yard rabbits from a standing position were routine when out lamping. (Why did I sell that rifle
My Weihrauch rimfires with 14" barrels require a more concerted effort keep steady on the sticks. I've got a Sako 75 .243 now with a Jet Z and it's a pretty good stick rifle but its not as good as that old BSA.
stevenedwards
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But its good to see you are here now
Short barrels rock.
Here's a practical example. I packed my day bag last night, ready for a 2 hr hike into the hunting area. It will require a fair bit of pushing through scrub, ducking under windfall trees, a few fences, etc. the rifle barrel is comfortably below the top of my head. Wouldn't want a 24" inch for this application.
Here's a practical example. I packed my day bag last night, ready for a 2 hr hike into the hunting area. It will require a fair bit of pushing through scrub, ducking under windfall trees, a few fences, etc. the rifle barrel is comfortably below the top of my head. Wouldn't want a 24" inch for this application.
Nice pack. Who makes that?
Sonicdmb73
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Considering that there’s 6” difference in barrel length and you state the same moderator type. It doesn’t seem to add up.
Actually as it is a thread about barrel length and the two barrel lengths were stated. But it was not made clear that he was now referring to overall length of the rifle. The measurement difference given didn’t add up.
It's survived a few torrential downpours @NigelM, with no issues. The 500D Cordura is tough stuff.
But I use a waterproof inner anyway, so when I set up I can take out my gear and have it handy, but not getting wet. And I also use a blaze orange rain cover over the bag and rifle in scabbard for when its really filthy.
But I use a waterproof inner anyway, so when I set up I can take out my gear and have it handy, but not getting wet. And I also use a blaze orange rain cover over the bag and rifle in scabbard for when its really filthy.
Sonicdmb73
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Probably a better conversation too.Not anymore its not, its now a thread about my bag.
I have told my kids about a similar one for sale at a local RFD. It’s father’s day shortly I was dropping hints.
What length is you bag and what velocity do you get out of it. LolNot anymore its not, its now a thread about my bag.
jthyttin
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Yes I would chop barrels to shortest the law will allow (or thereabouts) depending on use. Actually trying to decide right now if 12" 308 is a bit on the short side... tempted by the OAL though...
I changed my post since I'm not a native speaker and after reading what I wrote it sounded a bit harsh and was not 100% correct. I made the change inside a minute or so from posting, but I always mark any edits in my posts since it annoys me that some do not.
Fact is that sniper rifles are getting shorter and shorter since moderators are being fielded and CQB/Urban Warfare (i.e. short and medium distances) has huge role in modern battlefield.
Sonicdmb73
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I suppose the difference in modern powders makes it easier to get the speed from shorter barrels. If you look at the difference between black powder, cordite and the modern smokeless ones. You can see why
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