Where would I stand ??

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Scots_stalker

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Hi guys. As per usual I am preparing for my Sunday morning stalking , and the wife pipes up that I am too damn noisy getting the gun out the cabinet in the wee small hrs. And asked if I couldn't take it out the night before. ??

whats the legal standing on having the rifle next to the bed in preparation of going stalking in the morning ?
 

Sinistral

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roedeerred

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as has just been stated in another thread you are obliged to keep them secure from unautherised persons at all times
I would suggest you oil the cabinate locks and doors apoligise to the wife in advance.
sorry but you could land yourself in the pooo otherwise. a keeper is said to have lost his FC after falling asleep while his guns were still on the kitchen table.
 

Tackleberry270

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I think its more of a grey area. Legally you have not signed a contract to say your rifle will be in the cabinet until the moment you are walking out of the door. More along the lines of the rifle will be kept secure at all times. You could say that the cabinet was there and that was the most secure place for it but there are other ways to secure your rifle that would not be as disrupting to your families morning. If something were to go wrong you would be arguing whether your arrangement was justified. I would not like to be the one to test it.
 
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I have another approved cabinet downstairs so the noise from opening it in the early hours is not a problem, I only keep my most used rifle/s in this one this cabinet is small and discrete.
 

sh1kar

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presumably having the rifle out and securely locked to the bed with a plastic coated steel wire cycle lock (so its quiet when you unlock as you roll out of bed in the morning) is fine Alternatively why not securely lock it into a locked car overnight in your garage (also locked) with the bolt and ammo in your coat pocket indoors Seems fine to me as taking reasonable precaution ??

D
 
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presumably having the rifle out and securely locked to the bed with a plastic coated steel wire cycle lock (so its quiet when you unlock as you roll out of bed in the morning) is fine Alternatively why not securely lock it into a locked car overnight in your garage (also locked) with the bolt and ammo in your coat pocket indoors Seems fine to me as taking reasonable precaution ??

D
Or just try opening the cabinet quietly :stir:
 

scoop

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I cant see any problem with a hard case which is locked and secured to a radiator in the bedroom as its acceptable when on a stalking holiday
 

Tackleberry270

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presumably having the rifle out and securely locked to the bed with a plastic coated steel wire cycle lock (so its quiet when you unlock as you roll out of bed in the morning) is fine Alternatively why not securely lock it into a locked car overnight in your garage (also locked) with the bolt and ammo in your coat pocket indoors Seems fine to me as taking reasonable precaution ??

D
I agree but this is what I mean by grey area. Bolt and ammo inside the house in a locked box ready to go. Car alarmed, parked in garage or right outside the window. Built up area or rural. High crime/low crime area. Depends how you think your local force would view it as well.
 

Alantoo

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Hi guys. As per usual I am preparing for my Sunday morning stalking , and the wife pipes up that I am too damn noisy getting the gun out the cabinet in the wee small hrs. And asked if I couldn't take it out the night before. ??

whats the legal standing on having the rifle next to the bed in preparation of going stalking in the morning ?
If it is a Brattonsound Cabinet I don't blame her, they seemed designed to make a racket. I found that you can prevent virtually all of the noise by keeping a gentle pressure on the door with your non key hand. It prevents the rattle as the door moves forwards and backwards on the lock tongues and also attenuates the sound board effect of the door panel…practice before hand…you should just get the click of contact between key and door.

Alan
 

Scots_stalker

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If it is a Brattonsound Cabinet I don't blame her, they seemed designed to make a racket. I found that you can prevent virtually all of the noise by keeping a gentle pressure on the door with your non key hand. It prevents the rattle as the door moves forwards and backwards on the lock tongues and also attenuates the sound board effect of the door panel…practice before hand…you should just get the click of contact between key and door.

Alan

Ha .its a 10 gun brattonsound cabinet !!!
 

BRYAN

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Just remind her how bloody annoying she is with the pot and pans,hoover etc.
Why should she complain about your hobby.
 

Tackleberry270

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Just remind her how bloody annoying she is with the pot and pans,hoover etc.
Why should she complain about your hobby.
Exactly!!?? All that noisy housework whilst you are trying to watch the telly and she has the cheek to complain at a little clunk of a lock early in the morning?! I mean, does she know what you have to go through to put meat in the fridge?? :eek:
 
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Alternatively why not securely lock it into a locked car overnight in your garage (also locked) with the bolt and ammo in your coat pocket indoors Seems fine to me as taking reasonable precaution ??
A good friend of mine did the reverse - locked his bolt in the car overnight before stalking. Car was stolen from his drive and police looked on his stalking preparations very dimly indeed. Leaving a component of a firearm in the car overnight just to ensure a quick getaway in the morning was viewed as irresponsible. Apart from that, he was lucky to eventually get hold of a replacement bolt, at not insignificant cost.
 
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