Which custom rifle for that big birthday would be your choice ?

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Ok, I have a big birthday next year and was planning on that custom rifle in 308 win and then a special hunt to go with it, I have been looking around and have narrowed it down to three in the U.K..

Precision rifle services - Ultimate
Lawrence precision - Titanium, as I current use their moderators which are class...
Brock & Norris - Ratel

Do any of the members have any feedback on the above, experience with any of the above, as I have never gone custom before...any suggestions guidance would be very much appreciated.
 
Ok, I have a big birthday next year and was planning on that custom rifle in 308 win and then a special hunt to go with it, I have been looking around and have narrowed it down to three in the U.K..

Precision rifle services - Ultimate
Lawrence precision - Titanium, as I current use their moderators which are class...
Brock & Norris - Ratel

Do any of the members have any feedback on the above, experience with any of the above, as I have never gone custom before...any suggestions guidance would be very much appreciated.

are these not just off the peg suggestions for custom rifles rather than true custom rifles. Why not select the stock, barrel and action yourself and get exactly what you want. Saying that you have chosen three mighty fine options but I think the only way to choose between them is to handle them yourself
 
If it was me I would get the TT Proctor that's for sale one here and spend the rest on trips
regards B
 
Callum at prs built my 7mm 08 to my spec. I've known him for around 20 years, and his work is better than first class. So he would get my vote.....
 
Or, in 7x64, and with its leather transport case you could buy this at Holt's...with an estimate of £2,500 to £3,000...

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Lot 1133 of the December 2016 Main Sale...

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[FONT=&amp]A 7X64mm BOLT-MAGAZINE SPORTING RIFLE, serial no. 75719,[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]22 3/4in. nitro barrel engraved 'B. LAUBSCHER & ASSOC. CAPE TOWN', block-mounted open sights with folding leaf sight, gold-inlaid sight lines and marked for 100 and 200 yards, ramp-mounted bead fore-sight with folding protector, the receiver (with thumb cutout) side mounted with a quickly-detachable telescopic sight rail, the rings engraved with the calibre designation and serial number, matt top receiver ring, hinged floorplate engraved '4 CARTRIDGES' with push button release, highly-figured pistolgrip stock with cheekpiece, steel pistolgrip-cap, sling swivels, 14 1/2in. pull including 7/8in. rubber recoil pad, in its full length leather case with some accessories [/FONT]
 
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If your after a Lawrence precision rifle in 308 with Lawrence mod shooting supplies in Bromsgrove have one in stock for sale that is brand new but second hand as its unused
 
recon a few will now advise you to pick up some clapped out old parker hale as that is a real stalking rifle bla bla...

I think you are going in the right direction, time has moved on and we have advanced from wooden planks and iron. The modern rifle smith can now choose from many different materials and tailor a rifle to a specific purpose or make a very effective universal rifle. One of the main problems in the past was weight vs performance. Long range performance and light weight did not go together, things have gotten better in that way.
In the last years I have built myself, with the help of gunsmiths a few lovely rifles. In one case it took me good half a year with hundreds of hours to get my side of the build done but it was worth it.
My latest special build has a few points that I think are vital. Firstly it has an excellent barrel, you cannot beat a good hand lapped match barrel. In all likelihood they will outperform a factory hammered barrel in several points. They are just plain fun. In my case we used a shortened 22" F/TR Lija barrel with 1/13 twist that was chambered for use with 155/168gr bullets. The barrel should have been 20" saving maybe 100 grams. The stock on my build only weighs 27.5oz (780 grams) and compensates a bit for the heavy barrel. I chose a t3 action but it could have just as well been a Remington or custom rem clone action. For reliable feed I chose AICS magazines and an Atlasworx floor plate. The total rifle alone weighs 3.5 kg which is the same weight as a Mauser M03 sporting rifle. With a lighter barrel one could save a bit of weight, but might shave off a bit of the long range performance if longer strings are shot.
Anyway I have a few lighter rifles and this would be my heavy rifle. With the K624i, moderator, bipod and steel mounts the weight crept up. With a lightweight scope/mounts it would be similar weight to a normal hunting rig.
The result and shooting performance has been excellent right out to over 900m.

At 100m this would not be an unusual group. Shot off the hood of my car a week ago.

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I am not saying one should copy this build but rather think all details and components through very well. The barrel being the most important component, followed by the stock followed by the bedding followed by the action choice (in my book at least). A fault in any of these and it might not work to the level expected. also....not try to overcook things like too tight chambers or a too finicky cartridge.

I have met Mike from Brock & Norris and think he is a very good choice as well as Andy Massingham who also makes fantastic builds. Both seem to have an open mind to new methods and components.


edi
 
A few will now advise you to pick up some clapped out old Parker Hale as that is a real stalking rifle bla bla...

Brithunter lives! LOL!

But, in truth, a NEW AND MAKE EXPRESSLY FOR YOU a "bespoke" or as the Americans call it "custom" rifle is probably one of the worst investments that you'll ever make.

You will even if you keep it ten, fifteen, maybe even twenty years probably never see the money back you paid for it and that's before inflation...

Now, buy secondhand, maybe at Holt's, Bonham's and etc., etc., you'll get it at a much lesser cost. The original owner that commissioned it will be the one that has taken the hit.
 
Or, in 7x64, and with its leather transport case you could buy this at Holt's...with an estimate of £2,500 to £3,000...

View attachment 76367

Lot 1133 of the December 2016 Main Sale...

[FONT=&amp]B. LAUBSCHER[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]A 7X64mm BOLT-MAGAZINE SPORTING RIFLE, serial no. 75719,[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]22 3/4in. nitro barrel engraved 'B. LAUBSCHER & ASSOC. CAPE TOWN', block-mounted open sights with folding leaf sight, gold-inlaid sight lines and marked for 100 and 200 yards, ramp-mounted bead fore-sight with folding protector, the receiver (with thumb cutout) side mounted with a quickly-detachable telescopic sight rail, the rings engraved with the calibre designation and serial number, matt top receiver ring, hinged floorplate engraved '4 CARTRIDGES' with push button release, highly-figured pistolgrip stock with cheekpiece, steel pistolgrip-cap, sling swivels, 14 1/2in. pull including 7/8in. rubber recoil pad, in its full length leather case with some accessories [/FONT]
That's nice as well
 
Brithunter lives! LOL!

But, in truth, a NEW AND MAKE EXPRESSLY FOR YOU a "bespoke" or as the Americans call it "custom" rifle is probably one of the worst investments that you'll ever make.

You will even if you keep it ten, fifteen, maybe even twenty years probably never see the money back you paid for it and that's before inflation...

Now, buy secondhand, maybe at Holt's, Bonham's and etc., etc., you'll get it at a much lesser cost. The original owner that commissioned it will be the one that has taken the hit.

You are right....but why waste your life with things you actually didn't want? Second hand is not necessarily a compromise but often is. You only live once.
edi
 
If after a true custom rifle you have probably left it a bit late for next year, (or are you thinking of ordering it then) a true custom rifle is nice, but expensive, and I would not have the patience to wait a couple of years to be made,if I was spending the money I would most probably go for a quality off the shelf rifle and scope, that is properly fitted to me.
 
Ok, I have a big birthday next year and was planning on that custom rifle in 308 win and then a special hunt to go with it, I have been looking around and have narrowed it down to three in the U.K..

Precision rifle services - Ultimate
Lawrence precision - Titanium, as I current use their moderators which are class...
Brock & Norris - Ratel

Do any of the members have any feedback on the above, experience with any of the above, as I have never gone custom before...any suggestions guidance would be very much appreciated.
I have first hand experience of 2 of the above. If you haven't already, then you should seriously talk to Callum about a PRS ultimate rifle built to your requirements.
 
Beauty of a custom rifle is that fits the owners requirements. For me I want a hunting rifle in the classic sense. I am not worried in the slightest about it's performance at 600 yds, but I want the ability to hit a smallish deer sized target at 200 poss 250.

When i build mine it was ll be around be a proper left handed traditional Mauser type action. There are enough people making true left handed ones. It will have a 24" barrel, with open sights and a barrel band for the sling with a clean forend. It will have talley style quick detacheable scope mounts with a 1-4x20 and a 4-12x42 or 50 scope. It will be stocked with a nice straight grained well seasoned walnut, but glass and pillar bedded so it's stable.

Calibre - probably 30-06, but have always had a desire for a 300 h&h.
 
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