Which Sound Moderator and why?

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Armo

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I'm considering which Moderator to buy for a .223 (heavy barrelled CZ 527). I will use the moderated rifle weekly for foxing late at night so it needs to be quiet. I have been advised that a Reflex T4 is good for .223 - can anyone confirm this?

I may wish to swap the moderator onto a .243 or .308 as well as the .223. Does anyone interchange between these calibres while retaining the effectiveness of the moderator on each?

I'm not fussed about one brand or the other; my requirements are:

- effective: it reduces the noise of the shot to unmoderated .22LR level
- doesn't intrude into the scope sight picture therefore slim
- coloured black
- good quality, so won't rust or need to be replaced after a year
- costs in the region of £200 - £250
- ideally interchanges between .223, .243, .308
- should allow for consistent shot placement i.e. doesn't throw the odd shot
- doesn't extend the barrel length more than 5-6 inches and is not too heavy (500-600 gms max)

Not to ask for I don't think. Can anyone recommend the righ tool for the above?

Thanks,

Armo.
 

JAYB

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Armo,

If it is any use to you I use the same Reflex T8 on .222, .243 and 6.5X55, all you need is a different bush to fit on the various barrels, They just screw on and off the mod as required.

HTH

John
 

243varmint

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A tec Jet Z compact. Very good mod. Doesn't sleeve over barrel and is quiet. Look in Sporting Rifle mag about 2 months ago. Myself an and mate both have them. Mine is on my T3 and He has one on his sako heavy barrelled .243.
Used a lot at night on the foxes .
A bit more than £250
group well through it.

AS i said have a look in the mag they tested about 10 mods

Good luck
Jonathon
 

243varmint

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A tec Jet Z compact. Very good mod. Doesn't sleeve over barrel and is quiet. Look in Sporting Rifle mag about 2 months ago. Myself and a mate both have them. Mine is on my T3 and He has one on his sako heavy barrelled .243.
Used a lot at night on the foxes .
A bit more than £250
group well through it.

AS i said have a look in the mag they tested about 10 mods

Good luck
Jonathon
 

Thar

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I would look at the A-Tec, it is lighter than the rest and stripable so you can clean it. talk direct to the importers "Jager sporting arms" ask for James for a good price. You can use the one mod on many calibres without loss of performance.

www.jagersportingarms.co.uk

Best rgds

Tahr
 

Offroad Gary

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i use a .30 t4 on by .308 blaser r93 - got rid of the t8 because it felt too long. i'm having my .243 screwcut (picking it up tomorrow :D ) so i will be able to tell you more if i can get out this weekend. the t4 on the .308 takes noise and recoil down to comfortable levels.

i used .30 t8 on my prohunter .243, which was fine, although louder than if you used a .24 t8.

i have been considering various options for the .243 - i will use the .30 t4 at first then probably buy something else sometime. i might have the chance of a new predatror 8 this weekend for £50 - came with a keeper friends howa 22-250 but he doesnt want it, just waiting to find out what thread/calibre it is. if i do buy another mod to fill the spare slot, i will get one for the .243 calibre specific to maximise noise reduction.

hope that helps.
 

Jager SA

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There is very little difference in cailbre specific moderators and noise reduction which the human ear can pick up.
The first and only thing a moderator is designed to do is reduce the impact of possible hearing loss to the shooter. If the noise reduction damaging to hearing is being achieved then the moderator is doing its job. Other aspects of fitting the moderator are additional benefits.

I have used most moderators on the market, some are good and some are ok. When choosing a moderator for most people cost is a factor, which is to be expected, however, there are some worth the little bit extra.
As has been said here A-TEC and ASE are the main mods out there and are at the higher end of the scale, A-TEC being slightly cheaper. There is a saying of course...you get what you pay for.
 

1shot1kill

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the military have been using reflex t's for ages, so that says something for them.
the only problems with them have been with people not cleaning them, lets see how these new ones fair after a year or two of abuse, there will be just as many of them knackered l bet through lack of care.
 

Jager SA

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The T8 was a good benchmark for moddys in the UK, I would say it has helped with the ever growing selection of mods now available. It is , however, still heavy, it does rot out and for what it is constructed from not worth the money.
Theres good ones and bad ones it seems as I know a lot of people who have put many rounds down them.

The materials and designs around now are far better but with this in mind the price does obviously increase.
 

300wsm

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T4 I have one 6 years old and still going plus it is proven, all of these 'better' mods on the market have yet to prove themselves over time
 

charadam

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I think we use a moderator for 2 reasons. The order of priority is up to the individual:

1. To minimise the alarm effect on the quarry.
2. To minimise the damage to our hearing.

For 1 - Some stalkers will tell you that multiple quarry are "not absolutely sure" where the shot came from and so may not disperse, allowing a second shot or more.

For 2 - Having damaged my hearing over many years of military shooting and aircraft noise, I am here to tell you that YOU CANNOT HEAR THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A GOOD AND A BAD SOUND MODERATOR.

Sorry if I was shouting - my hearing aids are not terrific.

£2000 and not terrific!

But it was good to see you all at Minsterley - even if I didn't always hear you!

Charles
 

Armo

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I think I'll go for the T4 all things considered as it seems like a good moderator for my calibre (.223) and intended use (foxing at night). Thanks for all the tips.
 

paul k

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If I can hi-lack the thread a little. I have a very pretty .243 Steyr Mannlicher which I don't want to ruin the looks of. . Is it possible to cut the barrel for a moderator without ruining the looks of the rifle?

I had in mind being able to screw the cut bit back on - is this possible?
 

Rack

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I'd rather wear ear protection than put an ugly old mod on my pretty little Steyr Mannlicher .243. So there.
 

Jager SA

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paul k said:
If I can hi-lack the thread a little. I have a very pretty .243 Steyr Mannlicher which I don't want to ruin the looks of. . Is it possible to cut the barrel for a moderator without ruining the looks of the rifle?

I had in mind being able to screw the cut bit back on - is this possible?

Yes it is possible to cut the barrel and not ruin the looks of the rifle. Which model are you refering too?
 

Gurube62

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The August edition of Sporting Rifle did a top Ten Moderator test. Might be worth a read and should give you a good overview of what is available and at what price.
If you can't get hold of a copy send me a PM with your address and I will photocopy the article and post it to you.
 

Offroad Gary

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finally got out with my newly screwcut .243 r93 last night, fitted my .30 T4 (no need to change bush :D )

poi had moved 2cm to the right, therefore 2 clicks to the left on the 8*56 and i was bang on again.

sound and recoil/flip seems even less than my t8 moderated prohunter .243 (mind you i have been using the r93 unmoderated for a few months, so i might be wrong?)

IMHO no need for any more than a T4 - and they're the least protruding forward of all the Mods therfore dont upset the balance of the extremely compact, high quality, switch barrel rifle.

looking forward to nailing a few of the local lampshy buggers with it soon :evil:
 

Dickie

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Paul K
I bought another rifle so as not to ruin my steyr the only problem is it's not been out of the cabinet since. (the steyr that is)

Cheers
Dickie
 
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Davie

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Armo good choice and it will last you as long as the rest most of the chaps i know are using the t8 and they got them 5 + years back and don't let any one tell you different they all were out . Let the posers buy the expensive ones and the stalkers can purchase the practical ones. ;)
 
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