Winchester silver tip ammo

[Magnificent 7]

Anyone had any experience with these bullets pencilling through game.Ive a box of 185 grain for my 300 and used them on Reds on mull this season.Upon inspection they were less destructive than SST I have used before leaving an exit wound similar to say a lead round at a range out to 300 yards.Ive since used this same rifle to shoot a few roe one neck shot and whilst clean shot through the neck Vertebrae it looked as if it hadn't expanded just a small entry and small exit.Second roe 200 yards perfect shot tucked up behind the shoulder deer over to find bullet passed through again non expanded.Apreciate 300 is a bit big for roe and I do have other calibres but we've red on the ground and also I've been so busy with work I'd not the time to sort out a barrel swap ect.Ive had comments from friends the bullets to big it's going to fast ect ect Just wondering if anyone has a decent idea of what had happened speed is 2850 as checked by chrono.Could this be a case of just crap bullets or two much gun I was always of the opinion of deads dead I've shot alsorts previously with the 300 and it has never missed a beat albeit with different ammo.

 

[EMcC]

Back in the eighties I had some flat nosed silver tipped Winchester 150Gn .308 bullets. I can't remember the number but it started with 3006 ***** so I can only imagine they were meant for an underlever rifle of some sort.
I got them from Aftab of Reloading Solutions, I got quite a few at the time but when I ran out he could get no more, even when I searched under the #No I could find nothing.
Presumably your silver tipped bullets are pointed ?
I used them in my .308 to very good effect and would like to get my hands on some more if I could.

 

[Woodsmoke]

Big and slow is absolutely fine for roe. I shoot 180 grains round-nose .308 at around the 2600fps mark, and .270 130 grain at around 2800 and find carcass damage is minimal even with good expansion. You should be fine with your .300. My guess is a bad batch of bullets that are too hard?

 

[Tazz]

I used to use Winchester Ballistic Silvertips 130g in my 270 for Reds and Fallow, very accurate and hard hitting, my only criticism was a few recovered rounds from Reds the lead and the jacket had separated, I now use Federal Trophy Bonded Tips. I still shoot 95 grain Silvertips in my 243 very good on Munty, CVD and Roe

 

[Benelli201]

My first year i shot a few Roe with balistic Silver tip in my .30-06. they exploded on impact, never again. I Shot a large roebuck on the shoulder and the exit wound was a large Fist deep I have more Pictures but can't upload them

 

[Sinistral]

Anyone had any experience with these bullets pencilling through game.Ive a box of 185 grain for my 300 and used them on Reds on mull this season.Upon inspection they were less destructive than SST I have used before leaving an exit wound similar to say a lead round at a range out to 300 yards.Ive since used this same rifle to shoot a few roe one neck shot and whilst clean shot through the neck Vertebrae it looked as if it hadn't expanded just a small entry and small exit.Second roe 200 yards perfect shot tucked up behind the shoulder deer over to find bullet passed through again non expanded.Apreciate 300 is a bit big for roe and I do have other calibres but we've red on the ground and also I've been so busy with work I'd not the time to sort out a barrel swap ect.Ive had comments from friends the bullets to big it's going to fast ect ect Just wondering if anyone has a decent idea of what had happened speed is 2850 as checked by chrono.Could this be a case of just crap bullets or two much gun I was always of the opinion of deads dead I've shot alsorts previously with the 300 and it has never missed a beat albeit with different ammo.

I think this is the Winchester ammunition you're shooting?

SBST300 | Winchester Ammunition

It's by no means a crap bullet, could just be in this case a combination of too much gun using ammunition designed for expansion on much heavier game. The bullet is a Ballistic Silvertip, a Nosler/Winchester re-design (in 1997, could be 1998) of the old Western 'Silvertip' introduced in Winchester-Western Super Speed ammunition in 1940.

The original Silvertip came in .257, .270, .30, .32, .34, .35, and .375 calibres, loaded in obsolete cartridges like .250 Savage, .30 Rem., .300 Savage, .303 Savage, .30-40 Krag, .300 H&H, .32 Rem, .32 Win Special, .348 Win, .35 Rem, and .358 Win. An unbelievably long history and timeline.
The more popular cartridges of today like .30/30 .308, .30/06, .300 WM, and .375 H&H were still loaded with the Silvertip until fairly recently (.270 130gr ST ended in 2003, .308 & .30/06 ST lasted until 2013, I think). The bullets were also sold as reloading components in all shapes and sizes, the best sellers in .308 came in pointy form in 150gr, 180gr, .220gr, and 150gr & 170gr flat-pointed for the .30-30.
EMcC's memory is spot on - the 1981 Winchester .30-30 FP product number is #3017SF - if that rings any bells.

 

[308tikka]

Back in the eighties I had some flat nosed silver tipped Winchester 150Gn .308 bullets. I can't remember the number but it started with 3006 ***** so I can only imagine they were meant for an underlever rifle of some sort.
I got them from Aftab of Reloading Solutions, I got quite a few at the time but when I ran out he could get no more, even when I searched under the #No I could find nothing.
Presumably your silver tipped bullets are pointed ?
I used them in my .308 to very good effect and would like to get my hands on some more if I could.

I may have some Id be willing to part with but from memory I think they might be 180gns

 

[North Cornwall Deer]

I used to use them in 150grains in my .308
I had no issues with the bullets and expansion. However I had major issues with on batch of factory ammo that hadn’t been seated correctly and the bullets could be pulled by hand. I won’t be using them again

 

[Magnificent 7]

I think this is the Winchester ammunition you're shooting?

SBST300 | Winchester Ammunition

It's by no means a crap bullet, could just be in this case a combination of too much gun using ammunition designed for expansion on much heavier game. The bullet is a Ballistic Silvertip, a Nosler/Winchester re-design (in 1997, could be 1998) of the old Western 'Silvertip' introduced in Winchester-Western Super Speed ammunition in 1940.

The original Silvertip came in .257, .270, .30, .32, .34, .35, and .375 calibres, loaded in obsolete cartridges like .250 Savage, .30 Rem., .300 Savage, .303 Savage, .30-40 Krag, .300 H&H, .32 Rem, .32 Win Special, .348 Win, .35 Rem, and .358 Win. An unbelievably long history and timeline.
The more popular cartridges of today like .30/30 .308, .30/06, .300 WM, and .375 H&H were still loaded with the Silvertip until fairly recently (.270 130gr ST ended in 2003, .308 & .30/06 ST lasted until 2013, I think). The bullets were also sold as reloading components in all shapes and sizes, the best sellers in .308 came in pointy form in 150gr, 180gr, .220gr, and 150gr & 170gr flat-pointed for the .30-30.
EMcC's memory is spot on - the 1981 Winchester .30-30 FP product number is #3017SF - if that rings any bells.

Yes thats them thanks,to all the replies I'll just stick to my homeload Bergers in future.

 

[EMcC]

I may have some Id be willing to part with but from memory I think they might be 180gns

Thanks for the offer but I am now getting to a stage where I won't be doing any more reloading, I cannot warrant it any more for the little bit of shooting I do these days.
The 150 ones I had were flat nosed so could well be meant for a 30-30 rifle, they also had two crimp rings so again probably almost definitely points to an under lever rifle.