Which stalking Trousers...Swedteam Ultralights? Others?

ChesterP

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Anyone tried the Swedteam Ultralights as an all-year round stalking trouser? Getting fed up with being soaked through on early morning autumn stalks in the mulsurp stuff which is fine for summer use, so looking for something that won't sweat the whatsits off me on hilly stalks. Already have some deerhunter Ram trousers for very cold weather but they're too warm for autumnal stuff and even in the cold weather, get too warm for trecking (fine in the high seat though). Looked at Seeland but they all look a bit heavy. I won't be spending silly money, and Swedteam gear looks to be pretty robust at reasonable cost (compared with Harlika anyway!).
 
I have Norma, but they seem a little pricey for what they are and don't seem to offer anything more (for what I'm after) than the Swedteams yet are twice the price. I'd prefer something with some reinforcement on the rear and on knees (not essential of the material's tough enough and waterproof) and ideally, a knife pocket. Holding off on the ultralights until I see if similar budget can buy something that ticks a few more boxes.
 
Not had the ultra light trousers but do have the Axton trousers and jacket. They are light weight and so far I'm very pleased with them. I have several bits of Swedteam gear and it is good value for money. I've also got the hiviz defender jacket that is very well made. Mice ate a hole in the shoulder ( how the feck did mice get in my car) but its still water proof. Its now my jacket for when i work in the forest.
 
I have Norma, but they seem a little pricey for what they are and don't seem to offer anything more (for what I'm after) than the Swedteams yet are twice the price. I'd prefer something with some reinforcement on the rear and on knees (not essential of the material's tough enough and waterproof) and ideally, a knife pocket. Holding off on the ultralights until I see if similar budget can buy something that ticks a few more boxes.
look at fleabay unfortunately quality costs dollar but pay once and get what u really want
I've a boot room full of cheaper priced kit that failed the real test of actually going stalking on a regular basis
Norma
 
look at fleabay unfortunately quality costs dollar but pay once and get what u really want
I've a boot room full of cheaper priced kit that failed the real test of actually going stalking on a regular basis
Norma

Agreed up to a point. Whilst some people are prepared to pay £200 to £300 for a pair of trousers, companies will continue to sell them at high mark ups. Everyone has to make a profit, but I can't see why I need to pay over £200 for a good pair of trousers. Looking around, there's the Swedteam Ultralights, the Deerhunter Recon Deer-X-Dura,and Seeland Frontier and Wood cock trousers all well below £200 and all probably durable enough to do the job.

It's getting feedback on some like those that would be helpful as I'm sure that there must be plenty on here that have experience of them, and you can't really beat feedback from the field.


Edit: I took your advice Norma 308: Checked out some fleabay offers on Fjallraven and there's a fair few well within budget. If you've experience of these, is the G1000 material that they use (a sort of treated poly-cotton?) water proof or will it more withstand the odd rain shower but not stand up to persistent damp conditions in long vegetation? It's often a difficult balance between water proofing and breathability, but I'm after something that will stand up to keeping you dry when having to crawl for example in damp or wet grass.
 
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I have a pair of decathlon 37 quid lined & like a cordura type feel outer , very good but most my stalking is lowland stuff , just had a day thru hill & heather & forest rides & in the big rides they were way to noisy with still quiet rides , have a pair of country covers trousers & they the same ... swish swish swish no matter how slow you moved.
Great trousers but not for stealth slow forest stuff I think .
 
Yes I have decathlon lined and waterproof trousers. Amazing for the money, the only real weakness being the noise. By moving r e a l l y r e a l l y s l o w l y I still seem to manage to sneak up on them though.
 
Try Swedteam Forest trousers. Reinforced knees. I wear mine all year round. They are lined but I wear them all year. They are waterproof and quiet. they got tested in Wicklow last year in monsoon weather. They stood up to the job. I have two pairs.
Also ive just been given a pair of Fjallraven Drev trousers. Will also be tested in Wicklow in November.

Jon.
 
Try Swedteam Forest trousers. Reinforced knees. I wear mine all year round. They are lined but I wear them all year. They are waterproof and quiet. they got tested in Wicklow last year in monsoon weather. They stood up to the job. I have two pairs.
Also ive just been given a pair of Fjallraven Drev trousers. Will also be tested in Wicklow in November.

Jon.


Thanks Jon.Will check those out.
 
Just bought a pair of "Field Pro" from Mole Valley , Hoggs of Fife market them. 3 days hard stalking in Scotland. It did not rain (surprise surprise) but we did get very hot climbing up the hills. Very breathable comfy and not to noisey, for £40 money well spent. Could have spent £200 plus on big names but that would represent a day stalking.
No brainer, Tusker
 
Hi Chester, are you crawling on the stalks and if so, on what terrain, flora etc. I was thinking that the new Seeland Prevail at £99.99 would be perfect as they are 100% waterproof, 10,000 10,000 membrane and with vent zips on the outer thighs. Really impressed with the construction and functionality. Seeland are developing more workwear styles, which we are delighted to have been involved with over the years.
https://seeland.com/prevail-frontier-trousers
Let us know so we can distill a bit more one what we would recommend.
Andrew
 
Another vote here for Swedteam, I use the Hamra range for picking up. The Hamra range is a good mix between a lightweight jacket and a winter one. Ideal for Autumn, will see how it goes on in the cooler months.
 
Hi Chester, are you crawling on the stalks and if so, on what terrain, flora etc. I was thinking that the new Seeland Prevail at £99.99 would be perfect as they are 100% waterproof, 10,000 10,000 membrane and with vent zips on the outer thighs. Really impressed with the construction and functionality. Seeland are developing more workwear styles, which we are delighted to have been involved with over the years.
https://seeland.com/prevail-frontier-trousers
Let us know so we can distill a bit more one what we would recommend.
Andrew

Most of the terrain is hilly, only partially grazed, so lots of over-grown areas and thick cover. I've thought a lot about what I need in a stalking trouser, besides keeping the legs warm! It's surprising, and a little disappointing just how many come up short in some department or another. The holy grail of durability, breathability, functionality, all season suitability etc are rarely found in any one design, but the more I look, the more I realise that the answer has been under my nose all along. I mentioned that I like the new Deerhunter Recon jacket a lot (the one with Deer-X Dura panels). Well, looking at the matching trousers, which I assumed might be too warm for spring/autumn use, I was wrong. I've been wearing the jacket in temps from 16 degrees to the cooler mornings we've recently had, including during the first frosts of the autumn, and it deals with the warmer days very well having excellent breathability. It is also made from material which seems a lot tougher than my older Ram jacket. Like all garments with linings (be that Goretex or Deer-tex...or whatever-Tex), snag it on barbed wire, just once, or tear through Hawthorn or Blackthorn and it'll wreck the garment. I try not to.

However, if that is the only compromise, then the Recon reinforced trousers seem to tick all the other boxes. More than I wanted to spend tbh, but probably worth it. Many trousers don't have zipped pockets which frankly is inexcusable in a stalking trouser. All too easy to lose car keys and then you're stuffed, so I want to have zipped pockets, reinforced knees and rear panels for crawling and sitting on rough or wet cover. None of my old ones had this and started to wear through within a season. I wanted water proofing but decent breathability. The recon, judging by the jacket in use, seems to be highly breathable, rated at 10,000g/m2/d although I find the numbers can be misleading. I prefer non-lined garments with better breathability but finding one that stays water resistant is the challenge. I don't like heavier canvass or waxed fabrics as I find them too cold and stiff in the winter. So the Recon trousers it is. Happy to report back once I've put them trough a few stalks and report back. If they don't live up to expectations, I'll say so to prevent others jumping in where angels fear to tread. If they do, then initial conclusions need tempering with findings on durability and that won't come until they've been put through at least a season, by which time I'm sure the new latest and greatest will have superseded them!
 
Or thinner unlined trousers but with merino wool base layers long johns ?

Been there,done that. No it's definitely not the answer, for me at least. I want to stay dry. 3 or 4 hours spent in damp/wet and morino wool longjohns, even if cold enough to be wearing them, won't keep you dry. Good idea when cold and dry to keep you warm as they wick away sweat, but in wet conditions, no.
 
If you can find a set of the new MTP waterproof trousers, wear them under your lightweight outers with a pair of long johns between skin and waterproofs, keep you dry and quiet. Used them in work like that in some horrible rain but stayed dry.

Dom
 
Thanks Dom but I've just pulled the trigger on the Recon trousers. I don't personally like wearing multiple layers for trousers since it restricts movement and I don't find it especially comfy. I'd rather just use something designed for the job with the other features needed such as zipped pockets, reinforced areas and zippers so they can be worn over boots. The reRecons have all of this and match the jacket I already have. Seems obvious now but when I started looking I was after a plain olive drab pair with reinforcement etc, but these'll do just fine. Will report back once tried out.
 
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