The beginning of the end for hunting in SA
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ileso
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half of it is BS.. There were african civilisations worthy of note before white men.. cities like timbuktu etc....
I've been to Timbuktu - (Origin of name is supposedly ''Buktu's well'')
Much like Djenny, buildings are mostly mud / clay dwellings - but the architecture is extraordinary.
However it is Muslim in origin and design - about a representative of black Africa as the Egyptians
Much like Djenny, buildings are mostly mud / clay dwellings - but the architecture is extraordinary.
However it is Muslim in origin and design - about a representative of black Africa as the Egyptians
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Natural occurrence which is called drought - nothing more! Cape Town is not the capital city of SA (it is one of them yes!)
The majority of food from the land is produced mainly in the rest of SA, not in the Western Cape Province - majority in the area are citrus, apples, grapes ect., bad luck for you guys drinking wines yes, but producers of eatable food...SA can still produce!
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An interesting thread so far. Some good points, some pretty bloody bad ones. Wonder how many of the contributors so far have actually live(d) in Africa?
Bowji John summed it up pretty well. Its the way it is in Africa, always has been, always will be. Interesting to note that there is serious political debate in Aus about the prospect of bringing white SA farmers over to WA on special “rescue” visas. This in recognition of the dreadful ongoing slaughter of white farmers in their homes, on their land, which even more interestingly hasn’t even been mentioned in this thread so far. If the Aussies get the visa laws over the line it will set a precedent worth having.
I’m married to an Afrikaner. I know them, well. I got off the plane in 1990 and was dropped head first by my new employers into Afrikanerdom, like it or not. I lived and worked with them, immersed myself in their history and culture, learnt the language, wooed a few young ladies, made lifelong friends of their brothers. I deliberately chose not to be like the other “souties”, who by and large disassociated themselves from the Afrikaners, with their condescending, post-colonial snobbery. I travelled southern and eastern Africa, met Afrikaners in all sorts of interesting places... Namibia, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Mozambique, Tanzania.
My dog is called Soutie.
So when I say that much of what is to come is ultimately of the Afrikaners’ own making, then know that its not a spiteful, shallow comment. Consider the name they have chosen for themselves. Afrikaner. Afrikaans. Read the history of the country, understand the genesis of these people. It was a hard, long birth, the birth of the Afrikaner nation. But one that was destined since before the Boer War to leave them outnumbered, politically redundant, religiously irrelevant and persistently shunned the world over. Their god has let them down, he hasn’t delivered. That’s quite a big deal for a lot of these folk, there was a lot of faith placed in that god.
Financial security for some has enabled them to buy their way out of the country whilst retaining a foothold, retaining their identity. But they won’t be around for the fight, they’ll be long gone. Those that have little or no security are stuck, reviled by the new regime, disliked in general overseas by those they themselves stuck a big middle finger up to in the 80s. Their culture is dying, poverty has arrived at their door. In the towns and cities there will be no will to fight, what for? As an ethnic group, the Afrikaner is on borrowed time.
Those that are left on the land, the remaining genuine Boers, they are just another tribe of Africans, in the long and brutal history of African tribalism, colonialism and subsequent independence wars fought in the interests not of Africans but the Cold War powers. The Boers still believe they are steeling themselves for the ultimate showdown, they are armed to the teeth! This has been coming for years, since well before the chicken runs in 1986/87 and 1994. Problem is last time the Afrikaners tried to stick up for themselves it didn’t turn out well at all (AWB in Bophuthatswana)... and quite frankly I don’t see anything different happening next time round. Remember what happended to Terrblanche.
No one on earth understands the bantu like the Afrikaner. This is both a good thing, and a bad thing. Their inevitable resistance to land appropriation will place a great many long and very deep relationships with blacks in great peril. So many good people will suffer all over again.
But Cyril Ramaphosa has got an election to win next year, and he can see the DP and EFF making gains at his expense. The decision to bring back the charges against Zuma and the resurrection of land redistribution are timed to regain the political momentum, the ANC has been going backwards quite quickly under Zuma. The largely ignorant peasant masses that make up the ANC power base have had their heads turned by Malema’s EFF and Cyril will be well worried by them and the DP. The ANC has already lost the Western Cape forever, and they can’t afford an EFF militant insurgency in its own midst. So Cyril has maybe started making a few promises he might not actually be inclined to keep... so maybe, just maybe, this latest news from South Africa is all just smoke and mirrors.
Ultimately though, nothing can excuse or forgive the slaughter of innocent people in their homes, on their farms. The targeted murder of white farmers and their families is nothing short of genocide.
Bowji John summed it up pretty well. Its the way it is in Africa, always has been, always will be. Interesting to note that there is serious political debate in Aus about the prospect of bringing white SA farmers over to WA on special “rescue” visas. This in recognition of the dreadful ongoing slaughter of white farmers in their homes, on their land, which even more interestingly hasn’t even been mentioned in this thread so far. If the Aussies get the visa laws over the line it will set a precedent worth having.
I’m married to an Afrikaner. I know them, well. I got off the plane in 1990 and was dropped head first by my new employers into Afrikanerdom, like it or not. I lived and worked with them, immersed myself in their history and culture, learnt the language, wooed a few young ladies, made lifelong friends of their brothers. I deliberately chose not to be like the other “souties”, who by and large disassociated themselves from the Afrikaners, with their condescending, post-colonial snobbery. I travelled southern and eastern Africa, met Afrikaners in all sorts of interesting places... Namibia, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Mozambique, Tanzania.
My dog is called Soutie.
So when I say that much of what is to come is ultimately of the Afrikaners’ own making, then know that its not a spiteful, shallow comment. Consider the name they have chosen for themselves. Afrikaner. Afrikaans. Read the history of the country, understand the genesis of these people. It was a hard, long birth, the birth of the Afrikaner nation. But one that was destined since before the Boer War to leave them outnumbered, politically redundant, religiously irrelevant and persistently shunned the world over. Their god has let them down, he hasn’t delivered. That’s quite a big deal for a lot of these folk, there was a lot of faith placed in that god.
Financial security for some has enabled them to buy their way out of the country whilst retaining a foothold, retaining their identity. But they won’t be around for the fight, they’ll be long gone. Those that have little or no security are stuck, reviled by the new regime, disliked in general overseas by those they themselves stuck a big middle finger up to in the 80s. Their culture is dying, poverty has arrived at their door. In the towns and cities there will be no will to fight, what for? As an ethnic group, the Afrikaner is on borrowed time.
Those that are left on the land, the remaining genuine Boers, they are just another tribe of Africans, in the long and brutal history of African tribalism, colonialism and subsequent independence wars fought in the interests not of Africans but the Cold War powers. The Boers still believe they are steeling themselves for the ultimate showdown, they are armed to the teeth! This has been coming for years, since well before the chicken runs in 1986/87 and 1994. Problem is last time the Afrikaners tried to stick up for themselves it didn’t turn out well at all (AWB in Bophuthatswana)... and quite frankly I don’t see anything different happening next time round. Remember what happended to Terrblanche.
No one on earth understands the bantu like the Afrikaner. This is both a good thing, and a bad thing. Their inevitable resistance to land appropriation will place a great many long and very deep relationships with blacks in great peril. So many good people will suffer all over again.
But Cyril Ramaphosa has got an election to win next year, and he can see the DP and EFF making gains at his expense. The decision to bring back the charges against Zuma and the resurrection of land redistribution are timed to regain the political momentum, the ANC has been going backwards quite quickly under Zuma. The largely ignorant peasant masses that make up the ANC power base have had their heads turned by Malema’s EFF and Cyril will be well worried by them and the DP. The ANC has already lost the Western Cape forever, and they can’t afford an EFF militant insurgency in its own midst. So Cyril has maybe started making a few promises he might not actually be inclined to keep... so maybe, just maybe, this latest news from South Africa is all just smoke and mirrors.
Ultimately though, nothing can excuse or forgive the slaughter of innocent people in their homes, on their farms. The targeted murder of white farmers and their families is nothing short of genocide.
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Highlandsjohn
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Thanks for posting that dk.john
+1. The ongoing farm murders are not even making the news. A very honest and good assessment of the sad future though.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-...ican-farmers-resettlement-gaining-mom/9556098
For those interested in what the WA Liberals are up to.
Bloody good on them. Hoping like hell they succeed. Needless to say the ANC govt doesn't think it's a good idea.
For those interested in what the WA Liberals are up to.
Bloody good on them. Hoping like hell they succeed. Needless to say the ANC govt doesn't think it's a good idea.
mchughcb
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From what I'm seeing in the press its very simple, land based on race only. Therefore the only appropriate thing to do when 6 million whites are kicked out of South Africa is to replace that with 6 million Africans kicked out of Europe. Seems pretty fair to me. I'm sure all the left leaning UN and EU leaders will agree.
Sweet! Couldn't be simpler. Anyway, pulling tongues out of cheeks....
As a fan of history and what may come in the future, I wonder how the lessons of history may or may not be applied, and how this will all pan out in South Africa. Changing of the guard isn't anything new, be it democratic or through mass extermination or the fear thereof. The integration of new arrivals always takes time in their eventual destination, and not without some pain. Never without some pain. A lot of that pain is still to come in Europe, they haven't even got going. I remember the Brixton riots like it was yesterday, and the numbers of disaffected West Indians was tiny compared to the movement of people across Europe today. And how, on the very last time in 2004 I took my dear old Gran to the pub before she died, she said "Enoch Powell was right you know!". She was 96. But today, riots and my Gran aside, my friends are all shades of pink, the full spectrum of brown, the odd distinctly black one and some vaguely yellowish, and my life and experiences are all the better for it.
Very few migrants ever go back. You leave, you stay where you end up. And you start again. Mass returns? Very very rare. Sometimes, you get kicked out and then get given your own whole country as a way of saying sorry. At someone else's expense of course, but hey, we'll worry about that later. What's different today, and will be increasingly so in the future, is the capability technology provides those with nefarious objectives to whip up hysteria and ferment disorder. That's what history hasn't learnt any lessons about yet. Those lessons will be learnt the hard way, it's still to come.
The US understands this, and has voted to basically shut its borders. Why? Because it believes it can't cope with all those its already let in, let alone another several million. It's national identity is changing, and those with the spondulix already in the bank don't like it one bit. Back in South Africa, the ANC leadership will be acutely aware of the tipping point at which capital really does disappear from under its nose, and access to alternative capital likewise. They have to be very very careful. The mines are dead or dying. Foreign exchange is in short supply. A tiny few very rich people are moving money from one place to another and back again, internally, the merry go round of profit. But no one has the faintest idea of how they are going to fund or feed the 'uplift' the masses. If they chase out the Boers, they'll descend into a Zimbabwean crisis on a scale literally four times the size, and several more times worse.
It's amazing how someone on the other side of the planet can see what a lot of our people can't see.
Somewhere in the Bible there is a prophesy that one day we will be ruled by our slaves. I think it was referring to social democracy.
Bos en Dal Safaris
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Stats SA showed in 2016 that half the youth do not know who their fathers are...i wonder how the hell they know where they originated from
Stats SA showed in 2016 that half the youth do not know who their fathers are...i wonder how the hell they know where they originated from
There are a few areas in Britain where that applies.
reloader54
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I saw this on social media. Pretty balanced, worth a look.
https://www.facebook.com/Verummed/videos/1983389445211740/
https://www.facebook.com/Verummed/videos/1983389445211740/
No sound on computer at the moment so only read the first part with subtitles. We all know the answer, give it back to them and cut off all aid and assistance. Then in two years watch them starve. And yes, I could watch them starve to death, no qualms at all. Will it happen? Will it hell, the hand wringers will give them everything they want.
