Why do we hunt?

CPShines

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Interesting Article

It's become clear to me during my time on this forum that there are many different reasons and motivations for why we each choose to go out and kill deer or other wildlife. I found this essay and it explains far more eloquently than I ever could why I hunt, and it will help me explain to non-hunting friends what I do, so I thought it would be good to share it. Perhaps it's old news, but sometimes these things are worth repeating. I'm glad to say it's the first result to come back if you Google my question.

https://www.humansandnature.org/why-hunt

Some snippets that stand out to me:

"There are probably as many reasons to hunt as there are hunters, but the core reasons can be reduced to four: to experience nature as a participant; to feel an intimate, sensuous connection to place; to take responsibility for one’s food; and to acknowledge our kinship with wildlife. It should not be surprising that these four themes echo through the extensive literature of the hunt. Let’s look briefly at these four themes—the personal reasons people are drawn to the hunt. Almost all hunters say, in one way or another, that they hunt in order to experience nature directly as a participant, not simply a spectator. To be sure, hunters are spectators, but the fact that they are carrying a gun or a bow gives an edge, no pun intended, to hunters’ observations. It is a cliché among hunters to tell of how the scurrying of a chipmunk on autumn leaves brings the hunter to full alert: does the rustling of leaves signal the cautious approach of a deer? Whether or not, on a given outing, a hunter kills a deer or rabbit or pheasant, going afield prepared to kill changes—intensifies—everything."

"another personal reason that draws men and women to hunting is the need to acknowledge that we are, after all, also animals with a long history of predation, a history long enough to have been encoded in our genes. To be sure, our capacity to create cultures with rituals, norms, and ethical restraints makes us distinct from the other creatures with whom we share the planet, but to deny that part of us that is wild is, as Florence Shepard insists, to deny what it is to be fully human."

"Humans have an incredibly broad repertoire, cultivated over millennia of evolution and the concurrent shaping of culture. I can’t dance or jump worth a damn but I can thrill to a ballet performance or an NBA basketball game. Before ballet and basketball, our ancestors performed all sorts of performances that got refined, degree by degree, into our collective repertoire. It provides us with an expansive sense of what it means to be a human being. Hunting is an indelible part of our repertoire and like stunning athleticism, astonishing scientific discoveries, and sobering ethical reflection on what it means to be human, hunting has its place in teaching us who we are."
 
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Because it satisfies our natural/genetic hunter gatherer instincts. There, much shorter read!
 
Just edited it to make clear I am not posing the question to the community, just posting a link to an article I enjoyed reading.
 
As our antipodean friend said why should we explain or try to make any justification to anyone else? those who object refuse to listen anyway. you either hunt or don't hunt, get over it.

or to put it another way [some of you may know the origin] [h=1]“For those who understand, no explanation is necessary; for those who don't understand, no explanation is possible”[/h]
 
CPShines - thanks for posting this. I really enjoy looking deeper into the ‘why’ of such things. For me there’s no need, it’s just a fun intellectual exercise and satisfies an interest in humans beyond the everyday. The Modern Huntsman-style works cover this kind of thing well.

As ever on SD people will criticise and disagree, even with a well-intentioned ‘I liked this, maybe you will too post’. Know at least some people enjoyed it for what you intended.
 
I'll try and find the time to post something thoughtful and worthwhile that will wind some up later, but just want to say thanks, great article and very important topic.
 
I was given a book by a Spanish philosopher written in the 1940’s Called ‘ meditations on hunting’ . It’s a wee bit dry at times but one thing he wrote about killing stood out to me. He said that we do not hunt to kill, but rather we kill to have hunted.

I like that. Not every opportunity is taken and we can all decide not to shoot up until the moment we pull the trigger. But the kill is simply the natural end to the hunt, which is the part we feel compelled by nature to do.

Appreciate that might read read a little ‘picturesque’ or flowery but it fits with how I feel about hunting.
 
Because it satisfies our natural/genetic hunter gatherer instincts. There, much shorter read!

Exactly this, I've never gone out with the conscious want to 'feel an intimate, sensuous connection to place' or to feel connected to nature as I am part of nature by being alive!

It satisfies part of human nature that is still present in some but not in others, simple as that.
 
CPShines - thanks for posting this. I really enjoy looking deeper into the ‘why’ of such things. For me there’s no need, it’s just a fun intellectual exercise and satisfies an interest in humans beyond the everyday. The Modern Huntsman-style works cover this kind of thing well.

As ever on SD people will criticise and disagree, even with a well-intentioned ‘I liked this, maybe you will too post’. Know at least some people enjoyed it for what you intended.
Thanks LostJock, I saw my mistake the minute the post went up with that question at the top.

I'll try and find the time to post something thoughtful and worthwhile that will wind some up later, but just want to say thanks, great article and very important topic.
Glad you liked it. I am thinking about it because my hunting has surprised some of our friends who never knew me as a kid, so don't know that I used to hunt with my dad all the time. I inhabit typical liberal middle class London - councillors, teachers, academics, bankers etc so it's caused strong reactions all round, some positive, some not, some thoughtful, some kneejerk and some surprises too.

I was given a book by a Spanish philosopher written in the 1940’s Called ‘ meditations on hunting’ . It’s a wee bit dry at times but one thing he wrote about killing stood out to me. He said that we do not hunt to kill, but rather we kill to have hunted.

I like that. Not every opportunity is taken and we can all decide not to shoot up until the moment we pull the trigger. But the kill is simply the natural end to the hunt, which is the part we feel compelled by nature to do.

Appreciate that might read read a little ‘picturesque’ or flowery but it fits with how I feel about hunting.
Yes, I've heard that one before and it struck a chord for me - it does make sense to me.

I don't even try and explain anything,they dont care a phuck what you say anyway.
I think that's true of some of our friends, but others can stand having their hypocrisies pointed out and may change their tune in response. I think some of the negativity comes from the fact they they don't want to be reminded that they rely on others to industrially kill animals for their meat.
 
Boydy47 said:
Exactly this, I've never gone out with the conscious want to 'feel an intimate, sensuous connection to place' or to feel connected to nature as I am part of nature by being alive!

It satisfies part of human nature that is still present in some but not in others, simple as that.

Maybe it depends on where you live - I am a townie, so I have to make a conscious decision if I want to get out not just intot he countryside, but to anywhere approaching wild. Though I also agree with you - I have no desire to go all Iron John..
 
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I first saw foxhounds at five years old. I stalked to watch deer continuously when allowed from seven years old, I snared my first rabbit at nine and shot(poached) my first deer at fourteen. I have shot many species two and four legged from eighteen on, and people ask "Why do you hunt?"
My answer is "Now it's for food" before it was "Because it's in my makeup."
 
Non hunters aren't always anti hunting.
A friend who has grown up in a town with parents who aren't pro field sports has asked me to take her hunting.
She doesn't want to pull the trigger, but is excited to take it from that point to plate. Ie wants to gralloch and butcher it.
These are the people we need to show our reasons to.
She sees the positives in the way closed seasons are decided and the way target animals are selected.
 
Maybe it depends on where you live - I am a townie, so I have to make a conscious decision if I want to get out not just intot he countryside, but to anywhere approaching wild. Though I also agree with you - I have no desire to go all Iron John..

This is a fair point and thought after I posted that I'm viewing from my point of view, access to about 4000 acres of permission, shoot 2-3 times a week plus a couple of strolls with dog and shotty each week and I have the option to drive through permission on the way to work. I do count myself very lucky for all of the above!
 
its in some peoples make up to hunt, forage, grow your own food
I love nature and wildlife being out in the countryside
when you hunt or forage you are not just an observer in the countryside you actually become part of it
 
I don't hunt for any one reason:

I like shooting.
I prefer to kill my own meat when possible.
It's more ethical than buying meat.
I love being outdoors.
I enjoy the challenge.
It gets me more involved in the natural environment.
 
I shoot for my dinner.

It's much nicer eating something I've shot, knowing it's had a nice life outdoors, instead of eating some intensively farmed meat that hasn't even seen grass apart from in a bale of silage!

I'm also picky about where I get my meat from, almost all the other meat we eat, is purchased from a local farmer/butcher who raises his animals outside, on grass with minimal hard feed , a very high welfare system that also produces a delicious carcass!
 
I shoot for my dinner.

It's much nicer eating something I've shot, knowing it's had a nice life outdoors, instead of eating some intensively farmed meat that hasn't even seen grass apart from in a bale of silage!

I'm also picky about where I get my meat from, almost all the other meat we eat, is purchased from a local farmer/butcher who raises his animals outside, on grass with minimal hard feed , a very high welfare system that also produces a delicious carcass!

I envy your lifestyle. Not so easy to do that consistently when you live in the home counties - at least not inexpensively.
 
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