stalking US vs Great Britian?

[Cootmeurer]

From the reverse viewpoint - it is hard to make honest comparisons between US deer hunting and UK stalking. There is more variation in the US from state to state. In some states the predominant form of hunting is spot and stalk (many western US states). In other areas baiting and high seats is the primary form. Yet in others the form varies across a single state (as in here - North Carolina - coastal plain and swamps use dog drives, central state uses food plots and stands, mountain uses stands and stalking).

as far as comparisons by species. I view roe as being like mule deer or unpressured white tails, that will give you a second look before fleeing. Sika behave like pressured white tails, diurnal and offering no second chances, and becoming nocturnal under pressure. Reds act a great deal like elk. Since I have not successfully hunted fallow, muntjac or CWD I can't say much about them. I will say that what I have seen of fallow is they they act like urban white tails, quite willing to coexist with humans even in the center of suburban/urban areas.

 

[Bavarianbrit]

Who hunts in ghillie suits? Serious question.

Don"t get me wrong I enjoy it every time I go there, just it is really culturally a very different place even though the language is similar, which is why I like it- I worked there for only 8 years and now get a US pension to boot (half my UK one for which I paid 40 years of contributions). Makes you think!!!!!

 

[Swedish]

Who hunts in ghillie suits? Serious question.

They were developed by Scottish gamekeepers over 100 years ago, hence the name...

 

[Bavarianbrit]

Basically any gizmo available will hook the punters looking to score in a short 2 week season. These restraints we do not have here and most of us hunt under a guide who would laugh you off their estate in the UK.

 

[A Guy Out West]

Who uses a ghillie suit? People who hunt other people (military snipers), bow hunters and others that have watched too many Rambo movies. A ghillie suit or some real good camo is a big help when bow hunting, might also be good for varmint hunting. Hunting in the UK and in Texas is similar in at least one way, you have to pay $$$$$ for it.

 

[mchughcb]

I just asked who? Like anybody on this forum hunt in a ghillie suit?

 

[A Guy Out West]

Ahh, sorry.

 

[mchughcb]

I find this thread very intriguing. Would people like to post pics or videos of where they stalk so we can compare the terrains?

I'll kick it off. Here is one with a deer in not too thick, flat terrain.

 

[reloader54]

I find this thread very intriguing. Would people like to post pics or videos of where they stalk so we can compare the terrains?

I'll kick it off. Here is one with a deer in not too thick, flat terrain.

I could watch stuff like this all day, thanks, I'm crap with cameras and stuff, but I'll see what I can do.

 

[A Guy Out West]

My 10 year old in our veld.

 

[jimbo1984]

To be honest when I lived in Canada one of the biggest things that struck me was how little you guys get to hunt within the tag system! I know we have some stupid laws but I'd sooner have our rules all day long , at the min I stalk 3-3 days a week , a virtual impossibility in America

 

[A Guy Out West]

Jimbo, it depends in which state you are hunting. I think the OP can confirm that he has 60 or more days of possible white tail deer hunting and you don't have to draw a tag to hunt in his area. Where I live its about 2 weeks to 30+ days. You can hunt in areas that require you draw a tag or you can go to no draw areas. The no draw areas have 30 + days in which to hunt. Buck or doe? That's another big factor in how many you can take and how long you have to do it. The situation in most , but not all states is that there are more hunters than game available. Thus, the drawing system. I have heard that the deer season in Virginia is quite long and that you can take a deer a day. It just depends on where you are. In the UK, yes you have it a lot better as far as bag and days to hunt. Other big advantages you guys have is that there is going to be game in the area you are hunting and you will have little to no competition. In the US, it can be hit or miss, again that depends on where you are hunting.

 

[Cootmeurer]

I just asked who? Like anybody on this forum hunt in a ghillie suit?

I do! I have also brought same over and used it in the UK. It worked brilliantly against the midges.

Now - an explanation - my ghillie suit is actually a lightweight mesh anti-bug suit, that has some synthetic leafy stuff on the outside. I pretreat it with Permethrin and use it primarily as insect protection. I first used one when on a spring bear hunt in Canada when the insects were beyond anything I had ever seen (even in the jungles of Central America). It worked.

Here - we have an extensive early (and warm) archery season. Especially after this hurricane that just passed, and left use with heat, humidity and lots of standing water - I wont go out without it. Just takes the fun out of the hunt when you are nothing but a big blood donor for a million mosquitoes. The other day - prior to the hurricane coming in, I decided to go have a sit. The air temp was 92 degrees F, humidity was 68% - so I hunted in T shirt, shorts, and rubber wellies with my camo ghillie suit pulled over. I am not a fashionista (that should be obvious) but I managed to see one nice deer just beyond range, that did not see me, and I went bug bite free (in spite of the cloud of mosquitoes hanging above my high seat).

 

[mchughcb]

I got a 3d leaf camo jacket but its not a ghillie suit. It gets way too hot for the most part.

 

[mchughcb]

More stalking

 

[captdavid]

Here is the history teacher in me. for about 10 years Texas was an independent nation. when it became a state(by treaty) it retained all of its state owned land. This was different from all other states, whose territorial lands remained the property of the US government. Hence, there is very little public land and most of that is somewhat controlled hunting. That means to hunt one has to pay the landowner for the right to hunt, or pay for the game one takes. Native deer can be general be taken from the first of November until the end of January. native dee are considered property of the state and we are allowed to take five deer, with a two buck limit. All exotics are considered property of the landowner. most are on high fenced ranches. these range any where from a square mile to 5000 acres that I know of. I hunt three ranches one 800 acers one 1500 acers and the other 3600 acers. prices are all over the place but generally a representative trophy of whitetail, fallow, sika or axis is around $2000, a good one $2500-3500 and a super trophy even more than that, really massive whitetails, the sky is the limit. I've seen them for sale for $10,000. Red deer what I believe to be silver or gold are $4500-$6500. Does are $350-$450. Hinds are $600. There is a substantial population of free ranging Axis and some Fallow and red deer. The prices are general a little cheaper, but not by much. These prices do not reflect guide fees $250-$350 per day for two or lodging. this can run from a cabin with a lumpy matress for $25 t0 a fancy lodge for $350+. I'm retired and can do a lot of research. Actually this Christmas I'm booked to shoot a cull red stag and my buddy a hind. the price for that, food and lodging is 1200 for the stag, and because he's my guest a hind for $600. I'm 70 and unless I can pull of a trip to Britain it will probably be my last horned "trophy." Feral pig, some with Russian in them, hunting again has variable prices but can be had for $200 per day, lodging is the same as above. follow the two websites below and you'll get an idea of my two hunts. please tell me what you think. capt david

hog, possibly hind tentenwhitetails

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