Bow hunting V Rifle hunting debate;

[howa243]

Whilst I would agree that the miss rate would probably be lower you cannot know about the wounding rate. My interpretation of the data was that the recovery rate of wounded animals was very high and didn't need the services of a tracking dog in most cases.

But again! the people that go bow hunting enjoy bow hunting. If they had cull targets to reach and were only interested in numbers I doubt that many would use a bow and would use a rifle instead. maybe it is worth noting that the total number of Roe taken in Denmark over the 2016/2017 hunting season was over 106,000. So it is quite a small percentage of the total.

Thats fine then.

 

[shakey jake]

why shoot a bird on the wing and risk wounding when you have the option of shooting a stationary bird

 

[Jagare]

Are you saying that we should legalise the use of bows in the UK because at bow hunting ranges that they are provably more efficient?

Bow hunting is very unlikely to ever be legal for game in the UK. If god sent down a commandment from the heavens that it was OK to bow hunt in the UK there would still be people arguing against and comparing peas with beans.

 

[nun_hunter]

OK.

You still haven't said what you use or do to ensure you are as humane as possible? Have you ever taken head or neck shots? Taken a shot near the limit of your perceived ability? Used a smaller calibre rifle than possible etc? Or have you don't hear, had things go wrong and got to where you are now because of that?

 

[finnbear270]

The Brexit of the hunting world!

 

[mchughcb]

why shoot a bird on the wing and risk wounding when you have the option of shooting a stationary bird

Whats next stationary clays to reduce the amount of chipping. Actually that would reduce frustration come to think about it, but add to boredom.

 

[shakey jake]

i know i sound like a right kn#b but my point is if its ok to maybe wound a bird and follow up with a dog but wrong to target deer with an arrow why the difference in opinion

 

[mereside]

OK. Sorry. Would have thought it eminently possible from a high seat. Shall complain to the folks who produced the research.
But okay, I cannot see why standing holding a bow or a rifle would provide any different a level of enjoyment. How is that?

That’s because you have never tried it, i can tell you 100% the feeling is so much different but I can’t change your mind on that fact.

 

[howa243]

You still haven't said what you use or do to ensure you are as humane as possible? Have you ever taken head or neck shots? Taken a shot near the limit of your perceived ability? Used a smaller calibre rifle than possible etc? Or have you don't hear, had things go wrong and got to where you are now because of that?

Hmmm, OK. I can tell you what I don't do. I don't open cabinet look at the contents and think, which if the contents is going to give me the most exciting experience.
To try and be more descriptive, I have never felt under gunned.
In a park situation I always head shoot and in the wild I always heart lung shoot.
Does this help?
Actually to answer another question I don't take a. 410 after winged birds to make it more challenging either.

 

[howa243]

That’s because you have never tried it, i can tell you 100% the feeling is so much different but I can’t change your mind on that fact.

Nope I guess not. Because I would not make the compromise in equipment simply to feel more excited about the shot.

 

[howa243]

i know i sound like a right kn#b but my point is if its ok to maybe wound a bird and follow up with a dog but wrong to target deer with an arrow why the difference in opinion

It's a fair point. The last time I got involved in this topic I admitted to being a hypocrit over a number of areas associated with shooting. But I would at no point take out of my cabinet a lower calibre of rifle or one with iron sights simply to enhance my enjoyment by reducing certainly.

 

[howa243]

why shoot a bird on the wing and risk wounding when you have the option of shooting a stationary bird

Do you have the option in reality. Does the fact that they fly not give that away a bit? But I agree one does not have to do it. To do it is to accept that you are likely to wound and cause distress. It's tough being a bird. Nobody loves them like animals.

 

[landkeeper]

It's a fair point. The last time I got involved in this topic I admitted to being a hypocrit over a number of areas associated with shooting. But I would at no point take out of my cabinet a lower calibre of rifle or one with iron sights simply to enhance my enjoyment by reducing certainly.

You cant talk certainty with any shooting of live quarry probability is the best you can do

 

[howa243]

Would be quite interesting to have a pole on who would like to see it legalised in the uk. I would do that but after this thread it might not get honest answers. Lol.

 

[howa243]

You cant talk certainty with any shooting of live quarry probability is the best you can do

So I couldn't say I was less certain of a kill?

 

[howa243]

Would like to think I am not the only one wondering why those American studies showing high rates of wounding have not been addressed. Doesn't suit the belief I guess.

 

[howa243]

Interested to find a sport where increasing the challenge does not increase the possibility of it going wrong.

 

[JTO]

why shoot a bird on the wing and risk wounding when you have the option of shooting a stationary bird

Most of the wildfowl that I shoot have been sitters since lead shot was banned.

 

[John Gryphon]

Have a look at this Vid howa243..no treestands required. My previous reply was to your "treestands" comment.

Once again Howa I posted the Gulf video re your treestands comment I hope you noted that the the archer stalked,took aim carefully and did very well.....without a treestand ffs. They are /were WILD animals in an unforgiving environment, not animals at a game farm water trough.
It seems that you have a bit of history being fixated with bows and arrows


howa243
Well-Known Member
Nov 7, 2013
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This is not meant as a knocking bowhunting thread. More to do with always being amazed at the damage that animals seem to be able to cope with.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/....html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003#slide=1916292

 

[JTO]

That’s because you have never tried it, i can tell you 100% the feeling is so much different but I can’t change your mind on that fact.

So you get a 'kick' then!