Wanted: Pigeon permission

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Bavarianbrit

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My pigeon shooting permissions farmer has been very ill lately and so he has no interest in the hassle of writing up any renewal permissions at the moment, so I am now at a loose end down here in East Kent which is a shame after 12 years on his land. Does anybody know of a local farmer in need of some help? Even some short term would be OK.
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I've heard this time and time again about getting written permission, if I asked one of my landowners to do that there is no way he would entertain it, its all verbal, has been for a decade, the only time I've asked for any commitment in writing has been when renewing FAC etc, and asking him to countersign or allow me to use his farm as my good reason etc.
If he is well enough to have a chat with, why give it up for the sake of a bit of paper?
 
A mate cant use a comp and printer also the farm manager was always far to busy so I done the letters for him with the managers approval so all he had to do was sign and date it....
A second farm the owner is wheel chair bound with very little use of his hands so again I just put the name, address of the farm and the owner made his x mark....
This is all for C/Fire permission.
All his pigeon shooting is a " yes you can go " with a polite text telling them he is out...

All my pigeon shooting is verbal also half the foxing/deer is as well.

Tim.243
 
I think it is worth having shooting permission in writing.
If something goes wrong and the **** hits the fan it may help you that you have this.
I always contact my land owners or lease holders by text prior to going on there land and have there reply on my phone .
Some may think bit of overkill but i prefer it that way
 
This farmer had always insisted that you have written consent from him and carry it while out & about so see no way around it. Shame, as he was a right helpful chap till the illness got him down.
 
hogey said:
I think it is worth having shooting permission in writing.
If something goes wrong and the **** hits the fan it may help you that you have this.
I always contact my land owners or lease holders by text prior to going on there land and have there reply on my phone .
Some may think bit of overkill but i prefer it that way
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I don't even get a reply when I text my farmers or gamekeepers saying I'm shooting, they just want me to text them so if they get a call off the police they can confirm I'm there.
 
Bavarianbrit said:
This farmer had always insisted that you have written consent from him and carry it while out & about so see no way around it. Shame, as he was a right helpful chap till the illness got him down.
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If this is the case then surely you have a written permission? Unless it has an end date just use that, I used a permission dated 2 years previous at last renewal and they can always call the farmer to check it is still current. That said if this for pigeon shooting is it for FAC or SGC, if only shotgun you don't need good reason to possess so permission is not essential.
 
dazb1967 said:
I don't even get a reply when I text my farmers or gamekeepers saying I'm shooting, they just want me to text them so if they get a call off the police they can confirm I'm there.
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Ditto, and I've been stopped more than once, the police have never asked to see permission in writing, they have once asked for my FAC which i don't carry with me, they just radioed through with my details to confirm I was who I said I was and confirm I had an FAC, they did note the calibre I was using presumably to check my record at a later date.
 
The farmer insists that all his permissions are renewed annually so it always was a pain to get it with multi drives over to his office to catch him in as he had 2500 acres to manage and was mostly away, I managed to renew last year eventually in July as I am not always in UK but he would not do a 1.5 year job when I asked him. Just is his policy.
 
Re police asking to see permissions. Leicestershire Police have their telephone scheme where you can, voluntarily, call and let them know you are out pigeon shooting. An advantage of this is by the very fact that you have 'phoned in and alerted to them that you don't ever then get them then turn up to check on you. For the reasoning that if it's all above board you'd definitely not be then calling them to tell them where you were and what you were doing. So to go out is a waste of a resource. I mean whoever heard of a jewel thief calling the police to tell them he was just about to steal the Crown Jewels.
 
I might give up my tickets this summer when they expire as at 69 years old the effort to get shooting land here seems to be too hard to get for a visiting shooter.
My own .270 just never gets used, last time out this January I used Malc"s moderated one.
It will still be carry on as usual in Germany and on USA"s public land though.
I have done the Utah predator test online twice now so then you are eligible to hunt yotes there and claim the $50 bounty from their DNR department.
BB
 
Bavarianbrit said:
The farmer insists that all his permissions are renewed annually so it always was a pain to get it with multi drives over to his office to catch him in as he had 2500 acres to manage and was mostly away, I managed to renew last year eventually in July as I am not always in UK but he would not do a 1.5 year job when I asked him. Just is his policy.
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Fair enough, I have a golf course that is similar, yearly renewals. Good luck which ever way you go.
 
Will be too busy organising my house renovation in Dover for the next year anyway.
Finding a trusted builder that has capacity = harder than rocking horse doop down here.
BB
 
Well his daughter has just signed me up for 2019, he is getting an injection into his eye every six weeks so no wonder he is really low, poor chap.
So that"s sorted out.
Now for that builder otherwise it"s put the house back through the auction house and bite the bullet/head/projectile on the loss.
 
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