Offroad Gary
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You dont see many blasers outside the blue oyster club!
Blaser R93 or Not ??
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Brithunter
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Now I don't own a Blaser, and never have, but have tested them. Another story. However if you buy from the official Apel importer a set of Apel mounts is now around £350 and more. As usual here in the UK we are getting shafted on prices. I enquired at the Newark Shooting show as I want to replace the horrid see through mounts on the Model 1903 Mannlicher and Apel still list them.
Citing Bisley's target shooters does not help much either as the target "boys" are often poorly informed on hand loading and often just play at it. At this time of year Fultons is heaving with target rifles in for a service and clean who's owner will not surface to collect until the start of the new target shooting season when the weather is improving. One does not see them in the winter yet they expect the sporting shooter and the ones who shoot the old military junk to give way and let them go first as the target boys are the only serious ones others just play at it.
As for Blaser's being over priced....................... sure they are. But all the time folks will buy them at the inflated prices they will keep charging it. It make me cringe when someone say it's worth ??? not it's not it's what it costs not what it's actually worth.
Citing Bisley's target shooters does not help much either as the target "boys" are often poorly informed on hand loading and often just play at it. At this time of year Fultons is heaving with target rifles in for a service and clean who's owner will not surface to collect until the start of the new target shooting season when the weather is improving. One does not see them in the winter yet they expect the sporting shooter and the ones who shoot the old military junk to give way and let them go first as the target boys are the only serious ones others just play at it.
As for Blaser's being over priced....................... sure they are. But all the time folks will buy them at the inflated prices they will keep charging it. It make me cringe when someone say it's worth ??? not it's not it's what it costs not what it's actually worth.
Interesting to read that they are over priced.
I bought mine 13 years ago, two barrels, 2 mounts, lefthand luxus wood stock, lefthand bolt and blaser double case all for the princely sum of £2450. At the time if I wanted two left handed Sako rifles with mounts in the 7x27 and 22/250 calibers I had on my ticket they would have cost the same, but I would have had no case with them and 7x57 were nearly impossible to get in left hand at that time.
For me the Blaser was pretty much the only maker who could do what I was wanting and they weren't any dearer or cheaper than any other European rifle. (Sauer were looked at but did not chamber in 7x57)
Here's an example of how a Blaser helped m pass level 1 many years ago
Turned up to the shooting range with 4 others. Had my rifle, but forgot my ammo (actually took my 22/250 ammo instead of the 7x57). Had a pal on the course who was shooting a Blaser, but his was a 243. I asked if I could borrow his barrel and scope to put on to my left handed stock and bolt. "sure no problem". Great, then the examiner looked at me and said that I couldn't zero the rifle because I was there for a test not practice, I didn't mind and said that it shouldn't make any difference what stock or bolt the barrel/scope was put on it should still be in zero. He looked at me as if I were needing a head rewire but accepted that I could shoot. I passed the test too!
If I honestly thought that there was any chance of the bolt blowing back and blowing my left eye out I would not be lifting the rifle out of it's case. I've already lost one eye, and have no want to lose the other one.
One day when I get the cash together and stop spending it on cameras, I will get a Rigby, but until then I will stick to the Blaser
I bought mine 13 years ago, two barrels, 2 mounts, lefthand luxus wood stock, lefthand bolt and blaser double case all for the princely sum of £2450. At the time if I wanted two left handed Sako rifles with mounts in the 7x27 and 22/250 calibers I had on my ticket they would have cost the same, but I would have had no case with them and 7x57 were nearly impossible to get in left hand at that time.
For me the Blaser was pretty much the only maker who could do what I was wanting and they weren't any dearer or cheaper than any other European rifle. (Sauer were looked at but did not chamber in 7x57)
Here's an example of how a Blaser helped m pass level 1 many years ago
Turned up to the shooting range with 4 others. Had my rifle, but forgot my ammo (actually took my 22/250 ammo instead of the 7x57). Had a pal on the course who was shooting a Blaser, but his was a 243. I asked if I could borrow his barrel and scope to put on to my left handed stock and bolt. "sure no problem". Great, then the examiner looked at me and said that I couldn't zero the rifle because I was there for a test not practice, I didn't mind and said that it shouldn't make any difference what stock or bolt the barrel/scope was put on it should still be in zero. He looked at me as if I were needing a head rewire but accepted that I could shoot. I passed the test too!
If I honestly thought that there was any chance of the bolt blowing back and blowing my left eye out I would not be lifting the rifle out of it's case. I've already lost one eye, and have no want to lose the other one.
One day when I get the cash together and stop spending it on cameras, I will get a Rigby, but until then I will stick to the Blaser
Brithunter
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I suggest you check the Blaser prices against the Sako's now 
Just pulled up Guntrader as it's quick and easy and has a straight pull section so all the Blasers come up nice and easy to compare ................. prices range from £1250 which is used to £3100 for a new one ...................... Hmmm somehow I don't thinks a Sako 85 costs £3100?
Hmmm interesting :-
Sako .243 85 L Hunter Wood Blued Bolt Action new Rifle (R/H) £1445
So the Sako is now about half the price of a Blaser R93 of course I just pulled these up quickly on one web site and by trying harder I could probably alter the results a bit but Blasers cost a darned sight more than a Sako today as I said the Blaser is over priced just like a lot of things here in the UK.
Just pulled up Guntrader as it's quick and easy and has a straight pull section so all the Blasers come up nice and easy to compare ................. prices range from £1250 which is used to £3100 for a new one ...................... Hmmm somehow I don't thinks a Sako 85 costs £3100?Hmmm interesting :-
Sako .243 85 L Hunter Wood Blued Bolt Action new Rifle (R/H) £1445
So the Sako is now about half the price of a Blaser R93 of course I just pulled these up quickly on one web site and by trying harder I could probably alter the results a bit but Blasers cost a darned sight more than a Sako today
as I said the Blaser is over priced just like a lot of things here in the UK.
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Offroad Gary
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anyone want to buy a blaser?
Brough
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Does it misfire ??
Offroad Gary
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Not for me but then I have got strong wrists to get that bolt closed.
Thar
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Brilliant
you don’t need to get a Blaser you need too get a life if you get that upset because somebody says they don’t like your rifle.
I believe the Blaser owner in the photo was European not American not that that should make any difference. You also prove how little you know about firearms design by saying most military semi autos use the same bolt design as a Blaser. I guess that explains why you are such a Blaser fan. Most military semi-auto rifles like the M16 use a rotary bolt, not a load of collets held in place by a wedge. The bolts are also held in place by the receiver, if you read the post on “hottest loads” you will read about what happens when a conversional bolt action fails, you keep your face for one.
Gucci handbag of rifles, carried by “latte drinking, man bag carrying soft southern poofters”
ATB
Tahr
Brithunter
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Of course................................. now where did I say I didn't like the R93?
What I said was it's way over priced ............................................ which it is. I also think in the UK we are getting ripped off on the prices for Apel mounts amongst other things.
Hornet 6
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I thought about a Blaser K95, the break action single shot.
Until I realised the action was made from aluminium, I had a shotgun with an alloy action...
It was great for 4 weeks, then the steel breech insert came lose.
I'll stick to firearms made from steel I think.
Neil.
Until I realised the action was made from aluminium, I had a shotgun with an alloy action...
It was great for 4 weeks, then the steel breech insert came lose.
I'll stick to firearms made from steel I think.
Neil.
Brithunter
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I thought about a Blaser K95, the break action single shot.
Until I realised the action was made from aluminium, I had a shotgun with an alloy action...
It was great for 4 weeks, then the steel breech insert came lose.
I'll stick to firearms made from steel I think.
Neil.
Have you considered the Chapuis break action single shot, cannot recall the name they have for it but it looks a nice rifle and the Chapuis Dbls I have seen and handled were very nice indeed. Other than that then is a Ferlach or possibly the Brno if they still make the break barrel single shot. I believe these are all of steel construction.
Brough
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Gucci handbag of rifles, carried by “latte drinking, man bag carrying soft southern poofters”
Of course Thar you are absolutely spot on.
Blaser the must have accessory ....it goes nicely with the Large house ,Chelsea tractor,Jag,and Revenger 27 .
Almost makes me feel sorry for my poor Northern cousins, almost
Of course Thar you are absolutely spot on.
Blaser the must have accessory ....it goes nicely with the Large house ,Chelsea tractor,Jag,and Revenger 27 .
Almost makes me feel sorry for my poor Northern cousins, almost
Hornet 6
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NO answer? Let me ask another question, what custom rifle could you by for the same price as a r93?
steve
Grandhubert
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I looked at a few, but in the end went with a CZ bolt action.
Neil.
Nothing wrong with the K95 mate, it's gentleman's stalking rifle and I know people who've had one for years with no issues at all.
An unmoderated 6.5x55 with a 24" barrel( you can have a long barrel as there is no bolt to add length) handles like a 4 weight fly rod and the two I've seen have been superbly accurate for the first couple of shots before the barrel heats up.
Grandhubert
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If I might chip in here Steve, for the same sort of money I think I'd rather have a Sauer.
If I was heavily in to driven boar I might plump for the R93 however.
Still a metrosexual's rifle though!
Well, to answer your first question; I quite like the Denel NTW-20.
Which should highlight the fact that your first question needed a little more in the way of context.
And to answer your second
Blaser discussion seems to deliver non-sequiturs: The R-93 isn't a custom rifle, quite the opposite, it's a mass-produced product of CNC tooling. In that context, I wouldn't have thought comparison with 'custom' appropriate or relevant.
....and I've already explained that in 2 instances I swapped them for Sauer 202s. Similar price range.
Out of interest, for those who are determined to see the R-93 thing as something to do with the politics of jealousy, anyone ever seen endless threads on Sauer 202 blow-ups or failures to fire?
Or Sauer 202 owners getting internet-angry because people don't like Sauer 202s?
Thought not
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Well, to answer your first question; I quite like the Denel NTW-20.
Which should highlight the fact that your first question needed a little more in the way of context.
And to answer your second
Blaser discussion seems to deliver non-sequiturs: The R-93 isn't a custom rifle, quite the opposite, it's a mass-produced product of CNC tooling. In that context, I wouldn't have thought comparison with 'custom' appropriate or relevant.
....and I've already explained that in 2 instances I swapped them for Sauer 202s. Similar price range.
Out of interest, for those who are determined to see the R-93 thing as something to do with the politics of jealousy, anyone ever seen endless threads on Sauer 202 blow-ups or failures to fire?
Or Sauer 202 owners getting internet-angry because people don't like Sauer 202s?
Thought not
Every one is entitled to their opinion and thats all good, but it seems to me that all you want to do is split hairs, wind poeple up and argue.....in short you seem to be a bit of a tool.
regards steve
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Offroad Gary
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The R93 is the finest stalking rifle ever created.
RP
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