Fox Radar

"Fox Radar"
I had a bit of a problem with a fox early last year, it started coming into my garden pi55ing on the lawn and crapping on the paths, her indoors finally stood on one and that was it, She wanted it gone. Get it sorted - What do you want me to do I said, she said do whatever it is that you do to get rid of it, So that was the green light. Over the next couple of weeks I pondered on how best to catch a fox, after some research I ended up on You-Tube and found a guy that had made a trap from a shopping trolley, as it didn't look too difficult to make I set about finding an old trolley.
Trolley found, courtesy of some very lazy students, a small angle grinder some wire and some plywood for a roof, it didn't take long to knock up, I set it up at the bottom of the garden with my camera overlooking it, hoping to catch some action. I tied a frozen squirrel to the trigger and left another just in the entrance, two nights later I caught the fox.
After the fox was dispatched I had a look at the camera and discovered that there were two foxes so I baited the trap again and waited, but to no avail, the second fox just wouldn't go into the trap.
Over the next couple of weeks I caught the fox on camera many times but it was very irregular sometimes coming in early evening and other times well after midnight or the early hours of the morning, which would make it near impossible to sit up and wait for it. And here was me thinking that foxes were creatures of habit, certainly not this one.
Finally gave up on the trap and decided that I needed a different approach, my garden gets very little ambient light other than when there's a full moon which makes it blacker than darkest Africa and you see diddly squat. What I needed was something that would alert me to the fact that a fox was in the garden well before it got to the bait station so I could get the window open and get the gun to the ready.
What I really needed was "Radar" but where can you buy radar to detect foxes, You can't.
So, a friend of mine is a retired electrician that used to install alarms and he has a basement full of old components and systems that never got thrown away, always good for spare parts he would say.
So with all these spare parts I asked him if it would be possible to use a 12v battery connect a PIR, run a cable up to the house that would be connected to a buzzer or an LED so in effect warning me that there was a fox there without even seeing it - in effect Radar! anything's possible but let me give it some thought he said.
Two hours later he sent me an E-mail with a link to this product 1BYONE Wireless Motion Sensor Doorbelll Chime Detector Entry Alarm Alert Sensor | eBay
Now it's one thing detecting the postman coming up your drive it's another detecting a fox, but I had nothing to lose, so I ordered one, did it work? YES, 100% with the exception of a few false positives that being a neighbours moggy, I disregarded all the silly tunes and went for the "door knock" sound, it's a bit easier on the ears, I set the PIR about 18" of the ground and it gives really good coverage of the garden. With a total to date of 26 foxes shot with the.22lr & N750 I would say it's been a huge success, better than I envisaged and with more foxes than I ever imagined, numbers are starting to slow down a bit now but I suppose that's to be expected, with a railway line 80yds away and a shopping centre 1/4 mile away with lots of food shops and takeaways a steady flow of new foxes is almost guaranteed.
The last four foxes were all vixens and being urban foxes I'm surprised at the good condition they were in, must be the quality food they're eating.
The only downside with this product is that it needs to be plugged into the mains, maybe someday someone might bring out a battery operated system that can be operated remotely to be used up at the farm, now that could be fun.
So for now I just set up the camera until I know there is a fox patrolling the garden I then set the bait station up, switch on the radar and wait. - Happy days.
 
Re the trap - when I have a fox in the trap, I remove it ( the trap) from the trapping area and if you can jet wash it off, then using a biocide (fairy liquid) give the whole trap a wash down, let it dry and place the trap in a different area of the garden as near a run as possible - pre bait with loose cat food for a couple days then set to catch - you should him within a couple of days

I’m pretty sure looking at the stealth cameras a trapped fox lets / pees out a chemical due to being caught which is a turn off for another fox on the same bit of ground

Good luck

Phil
 
I would say it's the blood.if you have shot it in the trap which is more than likely it will put them off


Yep. 100%
There is definitely something, I have a transfer cage for dispatch for that very reason, very rarely do I dispatch in the trap

There is definitely something that stops em going into a second use trap, I’ve watched over cages with a stealth cam and TI and you can see the cage the fox step back and the nervous up and down of the head and sloping off is pretty evident, in a first use trap they’ve been lead by their nose and straight in, completely different body language
 
All the foxes that have been shot are all head shot, the ones that are shot front on to their forehead don't seem to bleed much at all, those that are side shot tend to bleed out from the ear and can leave quite a large pool of blood.
My gun has been zeroed at 16yds that's the distance from my kitchen window to the bait point, the trap is about 4ft to the right of the bait point but the smell of the blood doesn't seem to put the foxes off in fact they usually have a good sniff about before getting stuck into the bait.

Hadn't thought about moving the trap but if it's not working then I need a change the tactics to try to outfox the fox!
 
You will get a large amount of blood from a 22 to the head, in seconds it blows up like a jelly mass best I’ve found to minimise the loss is Eley subs, my Blaser doesn’t like to load eley probably due to the wax coat. I use CCI 22 segmented instead, although there is substantial loss with them - My reason for a smaller transfer cage and it takes that away from the trapping area

Good luck

Phil
 
All the foxes that have been shot are all head shot, the ones that are shot front on to their forehead don't seem to bleed much at all, those that are side shot tend to bleed out from the ear and can leave quite a large pool of blood.
My gun has been zeroed at 16yds that's the distance from my kitchen window to the bait point, the trap is about 4ft to the right of the bait point but the smell of the blood doesn't seem to put the foxes off in fact they usually have a good sniff about before getting stuck into the bait.

Hadn't thought about moving the trap but if it's not working then I need a change the tactics to try to outfox the fox!

I sometimes lay up with TI and watch the foxes come into a 1st and 2nd use traps, there is a marked difference in their behaviour, everyone is different especially this years cubs and the old survivor

trying to get the flow in your favour can be testing sometimes.

I've just finished a trapping programme ( not safe to use rifle :( ) 2 traps installed, faced the traps the way I’d
seen them come on the ground - nothing for 2 nights, sat up the second night with the thermal, foxes coming in a completely different way altogether, shifted the traps 40 yds bingo. 2 every night for 3 nights - job done, moved the traps a few yards after each catch

mon to Friday 6 foxes with no pre baiting
 
Good going, but how do you manage to get them into the trap if you don't bait them? I charged up the batteries of the camera last night and reset it at 9:00pm only to discover that a fox had already been into the garden as my decoy magpie that was on the lawn had gone and I found a large triple deposit this morning that had been left on the path :fox: Going to set the early warning radar tonight and put out some new bait, "Bakers Meaty Meals" beef flavour chews, So we'll see how that works. I usually use chopped up pigeon carcass but don't have any left in the freezer.
 
I know someone who set up a similar system but he had a floodlight that came on when the PIR triggered the system, also a small bell in his bedroom. The foxes soon got used to the floodlight and ignored it completely. He would go to bed as normal, the little bell would ring and through the drawn curtains the foxes would usually be seen taking the bait oblivious of the fact they were totally visible. At 20 yards they were ideal targets for the 22, he's shot a lot!
 
Yes that's a similar set-up to mine, I thought about an outside flood light at first but decided to go a bit more covert, didn't want the neighbours watching a fox then see it fall over. one advantage with a light above the shooting position would be that the fox would avoid looking directly into the light so probably wouldn't see the window opening, could be worth a try as I have been busted a few times:doh: It is just starting to get dark now, the camera is on, the bait has been strategically placed so now it's just a waiting game.
 
Good going, but how do you manage to get them into the trap if you don't bait them? I charged up the batteries of the camera last night and reset it at 9:00pm only to discover that a fox had already been into the garden as my decoy magpie that was on the lawn had gone and I found a large triple deposit this morning that had been left on the path :fox: Going to set the early warning radar tonight and put out some new bait, "Bakers Meaty Meals" beef flavour chews, So we'll see how that works. I usually use chopped up pigeon carcass but don't have any left in the freezer.

pre baiting. Install 2 - 3 different fixed baits inside and tie the trap off so as not to catch. - let em have the bait say over the weekend, you’ll know what bait they like, if you use catfood sachets push the empty packets through the top so any residue drips out giving off a nice scent, they normally take these on the pre bait and clean them out on the exit route, after a couple of days repeat and set trap to catch

good luck

The moons up. :doh: :tiphat:
 
I have a spot where I wait for foxes and I use the sensors . I have 4 or 5 out so it will catch the fox from any angle. And they do have systems that run off battery's. Mine are.
And hear was me thinking that a battery system didn't exist:rolleyes: I have looked for one but not found anything to date, what system do you use and where and where can you buy one from?
 
Spypoint do a multi point sensor system with pics, there is also one that texts you when triggered no lights just a text on your phone telling which one
 
Spypoint do a multi point sensor system with pics, there is also one that texts you when triggered no lights just a text on your phone telling which one
Spypoint is probably a bit to technical for the old grey matter to take in, Can't even operate the dvd without my technical adviser at my side.
 
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