Different Attitude to Hunting

[BryanDC]

Over the weekend, I was struck again by the difference in attitude between people here in DK and in the UK. It seems from many of the comments on here, that due to media and public outrage against hunting, it is probably better not to show your head above the parapets.

Over here it seems to be different. We held one of our club hunts on Saturday in the public woodland as we do a couple of times a month during the season. Our clubhouse is part of an old watermill complex that is home to many other clubs. Sailing, fishing, yoga, the scouts etc. and every year there is a summer market and a Christmas market held in the mill courtyard.

We always plan one of our hunts to coincide with the Christmas market and anything we shoot is laid out in the traditional vildtparade, in the courtyard, at the end of the hunt.
This is the first year I have been there on this occasion and as I say the attitude of people really struck home. There was no negative comments or sour faces, parents brought their small children over to see the roe deer that had been shot and everyone just seems to respect that this is how it is and that hunting is a part of the mix of life and not something to complain about.

We also take part in the summer market, usually showing how to skin and butcher a Roe buck and with samples of Roe and rook breast on the BBQ for everyone to try. People here just seem to be much more accepting of hunting in general.

 

[deerstalker.308]

If only that were the case here!

 

[Orion]

Different world.

Was brought home to me when I participated in an extensive live capture operation at the Jægersborg Dyrehave north of Copenhagen. We were darting in the open areas of the park with full public access and all the forestry personnel were taking the time to explain to the interested members of the public what was going on.

Some of the faces were still there in 2011:



Culling is also carried out when there is full public access and school parties from primary age up attend the interpretation centre to see the results. A far more healthy attitude to nature and the environment than we see peddled over here to the majority of children. Luckily most of my grandchildren are in rural or semi-rural teaching establishments, or are involved outside school, so are far more in tune than other kids.

 

[Woodsmoke]

That's the trouble with the UK. Hunting has been so vilified by the likes of Packham, and the general public have been so far-removed from their source of food that all respective has been lost. Your average person now seems to have no problem causing stalkers and game shooters of cruelty, while simultaneously completely failing to grasp the sheer hypocrisy of shoving three-for-a-tenner supermarket chickens into their trolley . . . .

 

[James0586]

If that happened over here, we would have hunt sabs, police, other activists and the RSPCA in full attendance.....

I love how the Europeans respect their quarry and show it to everyone in their traditional way. SADLY It’s very different here I’m afraid!

 

[Border]

In Norway and Sweden hunting is an ingrained part of the culture. If you don't have hunting relatives most people know someone who hunts. Although there is no doubt some trophy focus the main emphasis is harvesting a natural, sustainable resource, be it large game, small game or berries/fungi.
There is almost no game rearing for release here, truly wild game, often regulated with tags and quotas.
The anti element is present and growing slowly, most prevelant in Sweden where highseat sabotage and demostrations at wolf hunts common. I am guessing they are from a mostly urban background?
Each country has a national hunting org that defends hunting and it's interests. However they also realise that the tide can turn and have urged hunters to be media smart with what they post on social media. Long may it continue!

 

[bluesako]

yep i used to think great britain was great, but now its a s*&t hole of a country, to many dippy hippys running the country bs.

 

[reloader54]

yep i used to think great britain was great, but now its a s*&t hole of a country, to many dippy hippys running the country bs.

many I suspect would agree with that, seems to be a movement building up momentum throughout the country whereby any formally accepted legal country pursuit is to be frowned upon at best or in recent advancements by the likes of crowdfunding etc and judicious use of media personalities, [with little challenge it appears, despite funds the average person could only dream of]
unfortunately for the wildlife in general this disneyland interpretation of how the countryside works cannot be a good thing for anyone man or beast.
lets just for one frightening moment say all hunting was banned, private gun ownership banned, the countryside left to the likes of rspb, wild justice, etc, and with no opposition all the rewilding ideas were allowed to progress without opposition, how long would it be before a serious imbalance reared its head, apart from the massive impact on livestock farming and agricultural methods in general. It simply cannot work.
Those that are pushing this movement are preying on ignorance of countryside management methods and their necessity in the balance required. and in truth are cashing in on it.
It's rather like the current political parties, lots of seemingly great ideas put forward by various people keen to attract votes but in reality having no idea how any of it could be implemented,who would pay for it and how the rest of the equation pans out.
lots of "buzzwords" flying about,, climate change, ban hunting and guns, free this and that,,, well nothings ever free is it.

 

[BryanDC]

Different world.

Was brought home to me when I participated in an extensive live capture operation at the Jægersborg Dyrehave north of Copenhagen. We were darting in the open areas of the park with full public access and all the forestry personnel were taking the time to explain to the interested members of the public what was going on.

Some of the faces were still there in 2011:



Culling is also carried out when there is full public access and school parties from primary age up attend the interpretation centre to see the results. A far more healthy attitude to nature and the environment than we see peddled over here to the majority of children. Luckily most of my grandchildren are in rural or semi-rural teaching establishments, or are involved outside school, so are far more in tune than other kids.

Interesting video. 700 animals a year are removed from that deer park every year. Culled or sent to other places as in this video.

 

[BryanDC]

In Norway and Sweden hunting is an ingrained part of the culture. If you don't have hunting relatives most people know someone who hunts. Although there is no doubt some trophy focus the main emphasis is harvesting a natural, sustainable resource, be it large game, small game or berries/fungi.

It's the same here. If there is not a hunter in the family then you will know someone that hunts.

 

[Orion]

lets just for one frightening moment say all hunting was banned, private gun ownership banned, the countryside left to the likes of rspb, wild justice, etc,

That’ll be on Friday this week of the Green Party were to end up with a majority in Westminster!

 

[Orion]

Interesting video. 700 animals a year are removed from that deer park every year. Culled or sent to other places as in this video.

A fantastic place and well worth a visit if anyone finds themselves in the area.

 

[BryanDC]

I think I will try and have a look next time we are over that way.

 

[reloader54]

That’ll be on Friday this week of the Green Party were to end up with a majority in Westminster!

I guarantee there'll be a few more shots fired from Saturday on.

 

[Orion]

I think I will try and have a look next time we are over that way.

Can recommend the Raadvad Kro on the edge of the park proper in season for a good meal - on the terrace if the weather permits.

 

[foxdropper]

We are largely to blame for this apparent difference .To blame for not being public about what we do and for trying to cover up whenever the public approaches ,seen it many times .Myself ,I never bother to conceal what I’m doing and they can take it or leave it .
All this hurriedly getting guns into sleeves etc ,covering up dead stuff if parked in a public place.
We have made them suspicious and must now live with it .

 

[JockStalk]

Some of the best responses I've had have been from anti's, especially of the non-meat eating variety, when taking the time to talk through what is being done, why its being done and how its being done.
Intolerance is the child of ignorance. We all have an opportunity to educate, and by doing so we can either give people more or less reason to be intolerant to what we do.
Or we can be passive and moan about it.

 

[reloader54]

Some of the best responses I've had have been from anti's, especially of the non-meat eating variety, when taking the time to talk through what is being done, why its being done and how its being done.
Intolerance is the child of ignorance. We all have an opportunity to educate, and by doing so we can either give people more or less reason to be intolerant to what we do.
Or we can be passive and moan about it.

In an ideal world I would very much like to agree with all you say, however you have to face up to the facts,
It is possible to provide those "on the fence" types who given the truth and facts will see hunting as a positive for the countryside in general' I have educated more than a few of those as I'm sure others have.
the fact remains those driving the negatives care little for the countryside, animal welfare, or others livelihood, they just want to cause mayhem,for the "toffs".
Go on youtube and you can see hundreds of videos of hunt supporters committing all kinds of atrocities, but very few antis or sabs being anything but victims. you don't see the horses being kicked,sprayed, or dogs led onto busy roads causing accidents that are then blamed on the huntsmen. Ive seen cars and 4x4 damaged, farm buildings burnt to the ground and lets not forget who released mink into the countryside, well that did the local wildlife population a bunch of good didn't it. no the cameras are never pointed in that direction are they?
these hard core disruptive terrorists of legal pursuits are not interested in facts, and you would soon get a kicking or worse if you chose to reason with them. many have in the past.
they are nothing but weaponised paid thugs.
the truth is out there if you look hard enough.

 

[Orion]

these hard core disruptive terrorists of legal pursuits are not interested in facts, and you would soon get a kicking or worse if you chose to reason with them. many have in the past.
they are nothing but weaponised paid thugs.
the truth is out there if you look hard enough.

Which is why the police need to get on the case and deal with these CRIMINALS with the full force of the law as it already exists.

If we could only see the introduction of something like this over here!

€30k Fine and a Year in Jail for disrupting a French Hunt!!!!!

 

[mchughcb]

We are largely to blame for this apparent difference .To blame for not being public about what we do and for trying to cover up whenever the public approaches ,seen it many times .Myself ,I never bother to conceal what I’m doing and they can take it or leave it .
All this hurriedly getting guns into sleeves etc ,covering up dead stuff if parked in a public place.
We have made them suspicious and must now live with it .

I'm with you on this. SD members on here that believe every animal must die right there. They never wound a single animal. Every animal dies with its tongue in, on a rock and never bleeds. They head shoot every animal but its eyes don't pop out. They don't need a tracking dog because they never lost a deer. They definately dont show any hunts on social media because it gives the antis ammunition but spend hours on youtube looking for African lion and buffalo charges and then give their expert commentary what the PH should have done.

They believe owning a rifle and shooting game is a privilege to be carried out by semi professional cullers in secret at night using thermal gear and then claim there are too many antis. How on earth does the average person relate to that let alone other hunters let alone anti hunters?