Fair price for a butchered carcass

[Turkish]

Okay, what would you consider to be a fair price for the following.

One larder weight muntjac or roe carcass, ( 10kg ). Broken down into diced shoulder, loin fillets, haunches broken down to primes -steaked and the rest diced - shanks, and some mince.

All in trays and cellophane wrapped.
Genuine interest as to what you think it is worth.

The choices are below. Please add if you can't find something that suits.

 

[Coddy]

For me at least £50.
You would get £35-£40 from the dealer for the whole carcass, so need to take into account your time plus the packaging costs.
Anyone who is not willing to part with £50+ can bugger off and buy less quantity for a ridiculous price.

 

[sh1kar]

For me at least £50.
You would get £35-£40 from the dealer for the whole carcass, so need to take into account your time plus the packaging costs.
Anyone who is not willing to part with £50+ can bugger off and buy less quantity for a ridiculous price.

gamedealers generally paying £2.20-£2.40 a kg for Roe. So the carcass is worth £24 max
S

 

[swatty]

Full roe butchered two boned and rolled rumps 6 fillet steaks two front legs cubed for stewing steak and a good bag of mince all vac packed £65 is what I’ve charged friends for them and they keep coming back for more

 

[Chill 123]

At £60 you are still selling it cheap . If I shoot a Fallow I have two options leave it in the estate chiller for the game dealer or bring it home to butcher , after it has spent two weeks in my chiller (cost) I have to break the carcass down into useable joints , vacuum pack them and label them .Then clean the chiller and the equipment I used to butcher he carcass .
Then dispose of the skin and bones .The whole process takes 3+hours , if you pay yourself £10 an hour there's no money in the deal if you even charge £60 Then I may have to deliver the meat to the customer .
Chill

 

[Woodsmoke]

You can't compare game dealer prices to those of retail butchery. I wouldn't consider £100 to be an unfair price, to be honest. There's a lot of work involved in butchering, as well as the skill required. They you have to factor in actually acquiring the deer, your time, the materials (packaging, etc), storage, waste disposal . . .

And you're still only looking at £10/kg, which is around 10% of what those thieving b*stards at the likes of Donald Russell charge.

Anyone who asked for it to be done for them, and then baulked at that cost would be in for a shock if they then went to look elsewhere.

 

[Turkish]

For me at least £50.
You would get £35-£40 from the dealer for the whole carcass, so need to take into account your time plus the packaging costs.
Anyone who is not willing to part with £50+ can bugger off and buy less quantity for a ridiculous price.

Okay Coddy. let's say £60. The added value of butchery, chilling, delivery and packaging would work out to be £20-£25.
Is that the margin of profit we would be looking at on top of the carcass price ?

I'm just trying to work out what our added skills are worth.......................
At £60 + is there a market for this kind of product?

 

[Alantoo]

There area number of on-line retailers selling venison...better to compare with them than game dealer prices.

Alan

 

[LuckyEddie]

Local butcher does a roe for £20, that’s butchered, sausages, mince and burgers.
It depended on what you add in?
Cost of bullet, powder, primer, time for cleaning cartridge and reloading, cost of fuel to get to and from permission. Time to stalk (do you include blank stalks into the time allowance?). Cost of fridge, power consumption, larder kit including knives and time to sharpen, butchering and packaging time.......
I don’t sell to anybody. If family and close friends want some then it’s a case of bartering, I help them they help me, end of!

 

[slider]

Carcass value + materials + £20hr + a bit to cover maintenance & depreciation of equipment.

 

[Malxwal]

Presuming you are talking provision of butchery services, as opposed to actually selling a butchered carcass you've stalked/shot yourself ? Interested for a friend (he'll be along shortly).

 

[Turkish]

Presuming you are talking provision of butchery services, as opposed to actually selling a butchered carcass you've stalked/shot yourself ? Interested for a friend (he'll be along shortly).

For this scenario it would be a carcass you have provided yourself. Let's say in these troubled times with all the game dealers shut you would still have to cull, and need something to do with the surplus spoils; after you have filled your own freezer, supplied all your friends and fed the dog.

 

[Malxwal]

I'd say even at £60+ it is great value when compared to the price of commercially available venison lb for lb. However, be aware of the legalities of retailing game.

 

[Coddy]

Okay Coddy. let's say £60. The added value of butchery, chilling, delivery and packaging would work out to be £20-£25.
Is that the margin of profit we would be looking at on top of the carcass price ?

I'm just trying to work out what our added skills are worth.......................
At £60 + is there a market for this kind of product?

Its upto the person as to what they think their time is worth.
For me, a decent larder weight Roe of 15kg is worth around £40.
Add to that your time to hang and chill it, skin it, then butcher it.
4-6 days hanging in the chiller.
20 mins skinning and preparing to butcher.
1 hour to butcher into decent cuts (im not a trained butcher, but learned from Scott Rea videos and done a fair few now).

Rather than sell a decent Roe for crap money, i would much rather turn it into burgers, decent cuts or mince for my dogs than give it away.
A decent Roe saddle £15.
A decent part of the Haunch £10.
As mentioned in a post above, a butcher who sells online, based in Inverurie thinks Venison meat is up there with the cost of nuggets of gold or bags of Saffron.
In my mind, i think of it as you get your money from the game dealer, he doubles his money and then the butcher doubles his money.

Had plenty people say “oh, i would be interested in buying a deer from you”.
”No worries, £60”.
”Oh, erm, is it that much”?
”Yes”.
Factor in the cost of shooting rights, time to get one, chill it, skin it, butcher it. (£7 per hour for your trouble skinning and butcher - roughy).

As said, choice is upto the stalker, sell it to game dealer, if price agreeable fine, if not and you can and have the means, do it yourself, give to relatives, sell some, try making burgers or Biltong, or in my case, i have 2 of the luckiest dogs in the world who get Venison mince, Venison chunks, Venison meaty bones.

I have in the past done a whole Roe purely for the dogs. Bit extravagent i know, but i feed my dogs Raw diet. I can get around 12 days worth of meat from one Roe, plus have the bones.

A few times i have gone to the dealer, not been happy with the price and chucked the deer back in the jeep.
A local butcher i go to, i purchase pork fat from him to put into Venison mince. He says he hardly sells any proper venison cuts, but sells Venison mince. It seems a lot of the public (townies) dont want to eat Bambi (but their views change when its free). They also think meat (cow veriety) are born and live in Tesco.

 

[Woodsmoke]

As mentioned in a post above, a butcher who sells online, based in Inverurie thinks Venison meat is up there with the cost of nuggets of gold or bags of Saffron



Had plenty people say “oh, i would be interested in buying a deer from you”.
”No worries, £60”.
”Oh, erm, is it that much”?
”Yes”

You need to show them this:



Absolutely boils my p*ss

 

[Coddy]

Exactly.
£104 per Kg.
And daft cnuts must be paying as its a fancy website.

 

[Frank Homes]

Donald Russell is a joke but a lot of people fall for it.

F

 

[Stalker62]

Wow.
Now that is astonishing.

 

[Utectok]

I might be wrong but I thought you had to be a registered game dealer to sell butchered deer? And you could only sell in the skin too a game dealer with a dsc1 correct if I’m wrong

 

[slider]

It's called commerce. People buy stuff, add value and sell at a profit.

At the bottom end if the food chain farmers and stalkers are price takers. At the other end the retailers are price makers. Retailers will set the price at whatever they think the consumer will pay. They are obviously paying.

Dont blame the retailer for making a profit. Join him