Stalker62
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My understanding is that they deal with it far better than Roe.
RSPCA helps roe bucks.
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My understanding is that they deal with it far better than Roe.
Grannysmith
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No roe are the only deer that i know of but will ask my mate whos a vet and post his answer
Grannysmith
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And fallow park animals most
Grannysmith
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Oops! and fallow were introduced here so they must be less vunerable to stress than roe
A lot of roe populations are the result of re-introduction too. From Germany, I believe.
The RSPCA does not have a monopoly on incorrect use of terminology. Just recently I noticed a member of this site talking about "fallow stags".
hunter243
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They probably are but there's something far more important to them than the welfare of some animal..... PUBLICITY
thorneyglatt
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Thank you. Not having seen one at that stage before (only winter/summer pelage) I assumed there was something wrong with it. After all our dog doesn't go bald when he sheds his winter coat !Shedding its winter coat
thorneyglatt
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Please see reply to Farmer_J - And perhaps in future bear in mind that not everyone has been blessed with your wealth of experience. I'm quite thick-skinned, so it won't stop me from asking 'daft' questions, but others who want to learn may be deterred if they think they'll be called 'cuckoo' six times over !
Stalker62
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Sometimes it's the thickness of the Stalker's skin that is important.
My view is there is no such thing as a 'daft' question and it is my experience that the 'classroom' is always pleased that someone was courageous enough to ask it...
Not being awkward or trying to belittle you in any way but you are a stalker as I see you were selling a .308 rifle. I would suggest perhaps some decent reading material on deer species and their biology and life cycles may be in order. That is the first thing I taught my lads and others fresh to stalking, get all the knowledge you can before you squeeze the trigger.
thorneyglatt
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Thanks for the reply - but I think I'll resist the temptation to respond !Not being awkward or trying to belittle you in any way but you are a stalker as I see you were selling a .308 rifle. I would suggest perhaps some decent reading material on deer species and their biology and life cycles may be in order. That is the first thing I taught my lads and others fresh to stalking, get all the knowledge you can before you squeeze the trigger.
As you wish, meant in good faith. At first I thought it was a wind up as some are known to do.
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Namman
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Every fallow deer I have freed from fences has died, despite trying to minimise any physical contact. Regretably I now think it is kinder to shoot them.
Interestingly, I spoke to the owners of a small deer park, with pretty tame deer, who were of much the same opinion. However, I've also seen large herds of park fallow - to all intents and purposes "wild" - successfully rounded up and herded into a handling system and put through a crush
Grannysmith
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Its physical human contact that stresses them
A bit like a human being captured by a lion a terrifiing and life threatening event when the animal is in fear for its life putting a bag on its head just makes it worse for roe.
Have taken veganary advice from a wildlife vet who says that all the deer species suffer from it but its a real killer in roe.
A new dropped kid may be tameable if it can implant to a human within hrs of birth but as they get older they become terratorial and young bucks have been known to seriously injure humans when they mature.
A bit like a human being captured by a lion a terrifiing and life threatening event when the animal is in fear for its life putting a bag on its head just makes it worse for roe.
Have taken veganary advice from a wildlife vet who says that all the deer species suffer from it but its a real killer in roe.
A new dropped kid may be tameable if it can implant to a human within hrs of birth but as they get older they become terratorial and young bucks have been known to seriously injure humans when they mature.
Moray Outfitting
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We have to say it is not a forgone conclusion that they will die. I have to drive through Knockando Estate to get to one of the forests I was looking after when employed as a Ranger. I saw two roe bucks tied by their antlers about 50 yds from the roadside. I pass the headkeepers house further on and stopped to tell him. He said best wait and see if they can come apart themselves. I was heading home late afternoon and they were still there. Both absolutely exhausted by now. I went back to the headkeepers house and this time we both went back to them to see if there was anything we could do. As I said both animals were absolutely shattered by this time and there was no panic when we went to them. The keeper looked at them and thought that we could give the poorest ones antlers a little pull and see if we could separate them. We did and it worked. We set the two bucks about 20 yds apart and left them to their own fate. I drove passed the next morning and there were the two bucks up and feeding, but one was at one side of the field and the other at the opposite side. And they were seen many times in the field but making sure they were not going near each other !..J
Grannysmith
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They can and do die from it weeks later
Namman
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I agree, it does seem illogical, but it is what I have found after releasing fallow deer from fences.
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