Even if I had the money I wouldn't hunt like this in the US

[devon deer stalker]

Basically the guys with money, and I mean money, some pay over £100k for these 'opportunities' bid on a special tag to hunt different species, the money goes back into conservation, but at what cost to the hunting community as a whole, just fodder for the anti's
I will let you draw your own conclusions

Cheers
Richard

 

[Apthorpe]

The thing I can't understand is why anyone with that sort of money would want their face or name plastered over the Internet.

 

[OJL1991]

All of the other tags are in a lottery system for the same area, so anybody can get one. They just sell off a couple of tags for the best areas every year to bump up the pot.

 

[Scotty99]

Generally speaking wildlife management and conservation is taken much more seriously in the states than many other countries. They have very strict hunting and fishing laws, strict and tight seasons, bag quotas on virtually all quarry and for many in demand species, like elk, a tag system. Anyone can put in for a tag either state residents or out of state, you build up points depending on how many times you apply. Some folks wait years to get a tag, so it is a big deal. Obviously a small number of tags get sold, at very high prices, and the money raised goes back into conservation.

All hunters need a hunting licence and a fishing licence if you fish, again all money raised goes back into conservation. I think they have got the balance right, probably why they don't have the clammer to ban this and ban the other, because most people understand how the system works and how it benefits wild life as a whole.

 

[devon deer stalker]

The main issue I had was the Elk took too long to die, and suffered unnecessarily, you could hear the 'hunter' asking for for more cartridges, with Elk you keep shooting until it is down, screw the meat loss, the first one I shot ran 50 yards and fell over stone dead, the second one didn't took 3 shots to put it down, all lung shots, I had all my ammo to hand and extras, I certainly wasn't requesting a guide to hand me some.
Cheers
Richard

 

[mchughcb]

The thing I can't understand is why anyone with that sort of money would want their face or name plastered over the Internet.

Because there will always be people like you that are curious.

 

[Apthorpe]

Because there will always be people like you that are curious.

What sense does that make?
A) I didn't watch the video,
B) Just because someone might want to see something, is no reason to display it. That's why I usually wear clothes in public.

 

[mchughcb]

Ok you didn't watch the video. But commented about it. I'm sorry it was quite presumptuous of me. I watched the video and he shot an elk.

 

[Fair Hill]

Some shot in all fairness, 960 yards!

 

[Freeforester]

Some shot in all fairness, 960 yards!

So, a 'real' hunting experience then....

 

[JMikeyH]

Some shot in all fairness, 960 yards!

Undeniable marksmanship. How confident do you have to be to shoot at a target 960 yards away? I'll give the guy the benefit of the doubt and say he's put in the time to get to a level of competency that he feels comfy taking those shots and it wasn't just a hail Mary, as evident by one dead elk

 

[mchughcb]

I have travelled through Arizona and Nevada.

Ask yourself this question. How would you hunt the elk? You are at probably 7000 ft elevation where the trees grow. You are not going to see more than 100 yards through the pines. The best chance of seeing an elk without calling it in is to glass the opposite face which maybe several hundred yards away.


I'm all ears about what the english hunting strategy would be?

 

[Bavarianbrit]

What energy for expansion is left at 2/3 mile then?

 

[Stalker62]

I'm all ears about what the English (sic) hunting strategy would be?

It depends.
Do you want to shoot it or do you want to stalk/hunt it?

Both are options.

 

[Apthorpe]

Ok you didn't watch the video. But commented about it. I'm sorry it was quite presumptuous of me. I watched the video and he shot an elk.

My comment wasn't about the elk he shot, nor how he shot it. People have different conceptions of what is sporting and what is a sensible use of their money.
What I commented on, and which really does not depend on watching before forming an opinion, is the issue of why they'd want to allow themselves to be plastered across the internet. If I was paying serious money for a hunt like that, I'd certainly expect privacy to be part of the package.

 

[User00040]

Some shot in all fairness, 960 yards!

Come on @dodgyknees you can do better!

 

[caorach]

To be honest I don't see that this is any different from the people you see on the internet who want to go on the hill in Scotland and shoot a "representative" 12 point red stag or the constant quest for and discussion about "medal" roe bucks or...

It is a case of each to their own. Evidence from estates of old seems to indicate that a stalker having lots of ground etc. can expect to shoot 19 stags for every 12 point stag he gets and anything above 12 points is very much a 1 in a 1000 thing. However, if the deer are fed by the road side and if the guest rifle doesn't want to walk far as he isn't that fit anyhow and... Same with those big roe bucks - many of them are spied out by the stalker well in advance and the "client" turns up, pays his cash, is taken to the buck, and shoots his medal. The chap in this video might be pretty disgusted by that sort of behaviour.

So, what we need to do is accept that he does things differently from me and that is none of my business. Then I can accept that what he is doing might be pretty interesting, I don't want to do it, but that doesn't mean there aren't things to learn and so on.

 

[Fair Hill]

Come on @dodgyknees you can do better!

What are you on about?

 

[Fair Hill]

So, a 'real' hunting experience then....

It was a great shot is what I said, he made the shot from 960 yards.

Just because he's rich doesn't take away from the fact that it was a great shot.

 

[mchughcb]

It depends.
Do you want to shoot it or do you want to stalk/hunt it?

Both are options.

Tell me exactly you would do either, I'm all ears?