BLM activist shot in London - appalling
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shakey jake
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poor women, hope she recovers
(The provention of)Violent crime in London is a joke.
We have had two serious stabbings within walking distance of our flat (E14) within the last couple of months.
We have had two serious stabbings within walking distance of our flat (E14) within the last couple of months.
bottletopbill
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Do not believe in BLM every life matters. Hope she pulls through
I think if you asked a BLM supporter whether they thought "all lives mattered" they would say, 'of course they do, but it's mostly unarmed black people getting shot by police, black people doing time -and virtual slave labour- in US jails, and black people making up most of the numbers for social deprivation, so if you really want to show that you think "all lives matter", then that gives you something specific to think about. You might also think how it was the slogan "black lives matter" that led you to pay any attention to this in the first place", and how scoffing at that slogan with a knee-jerk "all lives matter" reveals a preference for ignoring the consequences of racial prejudice, however deadly.'
Of course they might just say "F*ck you, wh*tey", but then there is rather a lot to be cross about. (And to put things into perspective Just think how cross we get about Kwis, or copper bullets, or people who think the latter are called "heads", or who can't spell "muzzle brake" correctly. [OK, that last one may be just me.]) But, honestly, black people in the USA have a lot to be ****ed off about, and I reckon it's an un-fairly bumpy ride for non-whites in the UK, too.
My take on this is that if we can fix the problems black people face we will be making our society better for everyone: in short, if we make sure black lives matter we will get much closer to making sure all lives matter and everyone gets the chance to use their days on earth well.
Think of it like conservation on game shoots: if your grey partridges are thriving, you can be pretty sure the rest of the habitat is both diverse and doing well. This is the opposite of the Kwis b*llocks, which favours apex predators while not giving a stuff about what their presence or numbers mean for the wider ecosystem.
Of course they might just say "F*ck you, wh*tey", but then there is rather a lot to be cross about. (And to put things into perspective Just think how cross we get about Kwis, or copper bullets, or people who think the latter are called "heads", or who can't spell "muzzle brake" correctly. [OK, that last one may be just me.]) But, honestly, black people in the USA have a lot to be ****ed off about, and I reckon it's an un-fairly bumpy ride for non-whites in the UK, too.
My take on this is that if we can fix the problems black people face we will be making our society better for everyone: in short, if we make sure black lives matter we will get much closer to making sure all lives matter and everyone gets the chance to use their days on earth well.
Think of it like conservation on game shoots: if your grey partridges are thriving, you can be pretty sure the rest of the habitat is both diverse and doing well. This is the opposite of the Kwis b*llocks, which favours apex predators while not giving a stuff about what their presence or numbers mean for the wider ecosystem.
Mick9abf
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Sasha Johnson: Black Lives Matter activist shot in London
Sasha Johnson has been described as a "powerful voice" who has always campaigned for black people.
www.bbc.co.uk
Read that and try to make sense of it - I find the BBC is good at clouding the story.
It would appear that an associate does not think Ms Johnstone was the target and the shooting was gang related and happened in a house ‘near a party’. She then says the victim has received “death threats”, none of which the Police seem to know about, however they are pursuing several lines of enquiry into this shooting.
With this in mind the I find the last part of the article quite concerning, as it seems to be suggesting they are condoning disorder if a ‘vigil’ isn’t allowed to go ahead.
“Black Lives Matters UK tweeted it was shocked by the shooting of "a young mother and fearless political campaigner who was at the forefront of many BLM protests last summer".
It said that while she was not part of their own organisation, "she impressively founded a new Black-led political party and was dedicated to resist anti-Black racism".
Announcing that a vigil would be held for her on Monday afternoon at King's College Hospital, it added: "Any attempt to intimidate or silence her, is an attack on all of us."
I hope that the lass recovers and the offenders caught however I can’t help but think that these groups would be better dealing with the elephant in the room and putting their energy into trying to stop this type of crime through supplying the Police with statements and/or working to reduce gang crime which is prominent within particular areas instead of looking for a reason to be outraged or cause disorder as it will make it more difficult for those trying to investigate the crime - it’s a strange old world.
bobthedug
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According to social media comments from the girl that was shot, (if indeed authentic) it would suggest that she herself has some racial prejudice.
I would not be surprised if a BLM activist and militant is indeed racist also.
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Honestly, I have no problem with black people being racist. I think they have more reason for it than most.
I also happen to think that racism is at some level part of the human condition and that accusing people of racism, whatever the colour contrast, is therefore, a counterproductive tactic for advancing racial harmony, because it's always aggressive, and so will always make those accused as well as anyone who feels at risk of being accused (i.e. everyone) defensive.
Far better to admit IMO that we are all prejudiced at some level or other and to pursue fairness on the shared basis that fairness is good, than to creat a rift between the supposedly saintly and the supposedly damned.
I also happen to think that racism is at some level part of the human condition and that accusing people of racism, whatever the colour contrast, is therefore, a counterproductive tactic for advancing racial harmony, because it's always aggressive, and so will always make those accused as well as anyone who feels at risk of being accused (i.e. everyone) defensive.
Far better to admit IMO that we are all prejudiced at some level or other and to pursue fairness on the shared basis that fairness is good, than to creat a rift between the supposedly saintly and the supposedly damned.
That's an idiotic thing to say. If you think you'll solve racial conflict like that you must be soft in the head.
To end racism, you need to stop seeing racial difference everywhere you look, not shoving victimhood in people's faces and ramming it down their throats. That will perpetuate and worsen bigotry and provoke greater conflict, not eliminate it. But that is what BLM wants. They are the problem, not the solution. They don't want an end to racism, they just want to invert it and control the terms of it by replacing one historic form with a new one of their own, and all of it a Trojan horse for a programme of nihilistic Marxism.
Anyone who subscribes to this BLM rubbish, takes the knee etc, is a perpetual adolescent and a fool.
Jamsie
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London is a violent place and life is cheap with knife crime and illegal firearm-related incidents almost on a daily basis ... any of which can claim the life of an innocent victim. Just being in the wrong place at the wrong time is all it takes and there appears to be no end in sight to this utter nonsense.
Whether this lass was the intended target or not is immaterial because she copped a bullet BUT .... not everyone cares to have the BLM message shoved down their throats and if you choose to put yourself up on a pedestal in the full knowledge that there are people out there who disagree with you (particularly after the dreadful scenes enacted out over the other side of the pond), then you will very probably generate a response. The fact that she is usually accompanied by a pair of 'heavies' would indicate that they are fully aware that their message may not be well-received and that they accept that there is a risk. Saying that, she did NOT deserve to be shot.
Jamsie
Whether this lass was the intended target or not is immaterial because she copped a bullet BUT .... not everyone cares to have the BLM message shoved down their throats and if you choose to put yourself up on a pedestal in the full knowledge that there are people out there who disagree with you (particularly after the dreadful scenes enacted out over the other side of the pond), then you will very probably generate a response. The fact that she is usually accompanied by a pair of 'heavies' would indicate that they are fully aware that their message may not be well-received and that they accept that there is a risk. Saying that, she did NOT deserve to be shot.
Jamsie
Jamsie
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@Finch Is your intention to persuade me to change my views or just to insult me because they differ from yours? I'm OK with hearing a different point of view, but if you can take the anger and aggression out of your delivery I'm more likely to want to consider it. I've never much liked fighting.
Rewulf
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Maybe not , but I can certainly see her confronting some crack head gang banger , and getting herself into trouble, shes got a proper gob on her.
The ‘Oxford Black Panther’ behind Britain’s first black-led political party vows to make white men ‘our slaves’
Sasha Johnson, a BLM leader, has set up a new party that will exclude white people from leadership roles and tweeted about ‘enslaving whites’. She’s just a young, female, black version of old white racists she says she’s fighting.
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