BLM activist shot in London - appalling

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Just a usual Sunday night/Monday morning in south east London when most people are in bed ready to go to work in a few hours looks like a black on black drug gang warming gone wrong !
 
Maybe not , but I can certainly see her confronting some crack head gang banger , and getting herself into trouble, shes got a proper gob on her.

And that's how easy it is! A few wrong words when you should be listening and not gobbing off then all hell breaks loose. She is obviously trying to make a name for herself here in UK but it won't work. The majority know what all this BLM nonsense is about and unlike the USA, this is one genie that won't be getting out of the bottle anytime soon.
 
The old adage of "you lie down with dogs and you catch fleas" comes to mind.
Yes indeed. While I am firmly of the view that shooting in the head is not acceptable behaviour, the thought strikes me that the gobbier and more unpleasant a person makes themselves in the public eye, the greater the likelihood of the Ungodly targeting them for special attention. I hold the view that she's actually been hung by her own petard, to be honest
 
But, honestly, black people in the USA have a lot to be ****ed off about
Not in my (albeit limited) experience. I've spent a lot of time in a tiny town in Southern Georgia, and there are two distinct demographics within the black community. The larger is a wonderful community of absolutely fantastic, friendly, hardworking, generous, open, and immensely kind people, and the other is a community of shiftless, immoral, thieving, criminals who between them account for almost every crime committed in the area . . . .

If the same can be said for the remainder of the USA then perhaps a parallel can be drawn between that very high-level and completely unsubstantiated observation, and the propensity for criminal behaviour carried out under the pretence of racial outrage?
 
Yes indeed. While I am firmly of the view that shooting in the head is not acceptable behaviour, the thought strikes me that the gobbier and more unpleasant a person makes themselves in the public eye, the greater the likelihood of the Ungodly targeting them for special attention. I hold the view that she's actually been hung by her own petard, to be honest
Well lets just say , if the shooter had been white, we would certainly have heard about it by now.

And if they were black, we shall hear nothing of the ethnicity of said individual.
 
No one deserves to be shot. Having seen some footage of her, she is an angry, very aggressive and racist young woman, but many are and doesn’t mean they deserve shooting.
I read she was at a party and shot in gang crossfire, so very likely by one of her own.

edit, having re read my first statement I will correct, some do deserve shooting, but not this stupid woman just for having unpalatable racist views.
 
It's just sad that the world has been reduced to this . Even though she is a racist and doesn't seem above promoting violence , she didn't deserve this . The pathetic thing is , it probably had nothing to do with being a pro BLM activist , it's probably just a random act by some meat head . There's a lot of that going around , and it doesn't matter what race you are . There's an old saying in Quebec , " Bad companions bring bad luck ". I suspect that this is likely the case here .

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Not in my (albeit limited) experience. I've spent a lot of time in a tiny town in Southern Georgia, and there are two distinct demographics within the black community. The larger is a wonderful community of absolutely fantastic, friendly, hardworking, generous, open, and immensely kind people, and the other is a community of shiftless, immoral, thieving, criminals who between them account for almost every crime committed in the area . . . .

If the same can be said for the remainder of the USA then perhaps a parallel can be drawn between that very high-level and completely unsubstantiated observation, and the propensity for criminal behaviour carried out under the pretence of racial outrage?
I take the point about sweeping generalisations. It just seems to me that when you take the disadvantages of three centuries of violent abduction and enslavement, a century of insult and segregation, decades in which the leaders of the Civil Rights movement were spied on, harrassed and assassinated, current statistics that show young black men many times more likely to end up as prison inmates or homicide victims than any other sector of the population, and none of the people in charge under Trump or most of his predecessors showing any determination to fix this other than by ramping up the intensity of armed policing, topped off by an entrenched sense of impunity in Law Enforcement that permits an officer slowly to murder a black man in full view of multiple witnesses, it's not unreasonable for the people identified with that accumulation of events to feel some actual racial outrage.
You are right that there will be people wrapping themselves in the flag of that outrage, or hiding under its cloak, to commit crimes for their personal gain and satisfaction. That said, I think when people turn to violence it is often because they feel that being passive is no longer bearable, and once violent acts are perpetrated they develop a cyclical momentum of their own from which any community struggles to escape. Some communities have staved off or escaped this cycle of violence, but that's very different from saying that they haven't received daily indications that many of their fellow citizens, drawing on the injustices of the past and the prejudices of the present, regard them as less than full citizens, and even as less than fully human.
I'm not saying that I have any idea how to fix this, but it clearly needs fixing, and whilst the choice to turn one's back on that need because a movement has some unpleasant fellow travellers, let alone because you feel excluded by its slogan, may be open to a variety of interpretations, I can't see that any of them offer much to be proud of.
 
Doesn't it seem somewhat ironic that a couple of the police forces concerned in America have had their Chief of police on the media spectrum. They were Black, so there can't be too much racial prejudice in the police force, or can there?
We also have similar with high ranking officers here.
 
Didn't even know this happened untill reading this post and the attached articles. All I see here is the potential for her to form another extremist group and then we'll have yet another terrorist group to worry about. She doesn't like the way the world treats her people but her people aren't willing to change themselves, stop dealing drugs, stop stabbing people, stop shooting people, stop breaking the law and the label will eventually be lifted, it's no different from the Islamic extremists that gave the honest and friendly Islamic people a bad name, the minority ruin things for the majority.
 
I take the point about sweeping generalisations. It just seems to me that when you take the disadvantages of three centuries of violent abduction and enslavement, a century of insult and segregation, decades in which the leaders of the Civil Rights movement were spied on, harrassed and assassinated, current statistics that show young black men many times more likely to end up as prison inmates or homicide victims than any other sector of the population, and none of the people in charge under Trump or most of his predecessors showing any determination to fix this other than by ramping up the intensity of armed policing, topped off by an entrenched sense of impunity in Law Enforcement that permits an officer slowly to murder a black man in full view of multiple witnesses, it's not unreasonable for the people identified with that accumulation of events to feel some actual racial outrage.
You are right that there will be people wrapping themselves in the flag of that outrage, or hiding under its cloak, to commit crimes for their personal gain and satisfaction. That said, I think when people turn to violence it is often because they feel that being passive is no longer bearable, and once violent acts are perpetrated they develop a cyclical momentum of their own from which any community struggles to escape. Some communities have staved off or escaped this cycle of violence, but that's very different from saying that they haven't received daily indications that many of their fellow citizens, drawing on the injustices of the past and the prejudices of the present, regard them as less than full citizens, and even as less than fully human.
I'm not saying that I have any idea how to fix this, but it clearly needs fixing, and whilst the choice to turn one's back on that need because a movement has some unpleasant fellow travellers, let alone because you feel excluded by its slogan, may be open to a variety of interpretations, I can't see that any of them offer much to be proud of.
One of the most eloquent & intelligent replies I have seen on this subject for a long time.
 
Doesn't it seem somewhat ironic that a couple of the police forces concerned in America have had their Chief of police on the media spectrum. They were Black, so there can't be too much racial prejudice in the police force, or can there?
We also have similar with high ranking officers here.
And long may it continue, whatever happened to community policing?
 
And long may it continue, whatever happened to community policing?
It died along with village bobbies and local patrols. When Panda cars came and bikes or silent velocette motor bikes went out. We also had local Gamekeepers as " Specials".
It would have been hilarious to have a black copper in my old village, everybody would have been scared to death of him. The only "Johnny foreigners" we saw were the old Sikh ( complete with suitcase) and Yanks from their luxurious camp on the next big estate.
 
The shooting is another sad episode that highlights how routinely now illegal firearms are being used and carried and where passers by can become victims. The story is featured on most U.K. news feeds in the top 5 stories, if the person who shot her had been white it would be higher up the news feeds as the media would have taken a completely different view of it
 

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