Ridiculous rates for ammunition will end recreational shooting
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paul o'
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stock up now any type will be better than paying that rate .
Good job you got promotion then...
No, I doubt it will put anybody off...but they will certainly grumble about it.
The least expensive thing at the range or on a stalk is the ammo. If you can afford to be there, a few more pennies a pop isn't going to suddenly make you stop shooting.
Alan
Good job you got promotion then...
Ha! Yeah, I’ll be needing the extra cash for my £4 bullets!
Leupsak
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We use detection units and check deer before sent and I know our game dealer also uses metal detectors, no myth, detection units have been in use for years, tolerance of lead in carcasses is all that has changed
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Show some pictures of such a unit please, everything online is for detecting lead in water.
Simple your first comment could be interpreted as you don’t “self police” on quantities held at a time when we are all keen to hang on to our Tickets I simply didn’t see the post as one that would read well by a FOC
kenbro
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And do you think factory ammo won’t go up pro rata?
Cheers,Ken.
Leupsak
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Try Google, try Sesotec to start you off or Amazon if you want hand held. The food industry has used contamination detection for many years, tolerance of toxic substances is all that has changed
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My understanding is that the major hunting/shooting organisations have agreed a 5 year transition to non lead ammunition and we are in year 3 I believe. However I don’t believe there is going to be hard legislation in place at the end of that period, BASC etc have been working with a government body to agree the timescales.
Heym SR20
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There is no ban on lead ammunition. You can use it to your hearts content.
Some landowners, especially those with certification standards etc may well stipulate lead free ammo.
Many commercial contracts will stipulate lead free ammo.
And many buyers of venison will stipulate lead free ammo.
Any stalker is absolutely free to choose whether or not they take up such stalking opportunities or offer their venison for sale. If they don’t want to comply that is totally their choice and they should pursue other stalking opportunities.
Personally in my experience I see no difference in terminal effect of latest generation of lead free ammo on deer. I get a cleaner carcass and much less wastage of meat. And I know that I am put lead into my own personal food chain. I am happy paying more for my bullets, compared to cheap lead.
But if I am shooting gongs - its cheap PPU bullets for me.
Some landowners, especially those with certification standards etc may well stipulate lead free ammo.
Many commercial contracts will stipulate lead free ammo.
And many buyers of venison will stipulate lead free ammo.
Any stalker is absolutely free to choose whether or not they take up such stalking opportunities or offer their venison for sale. If they don’t want to comply that is totally their choice and they should pursue other stalking opportunities.
Personally in my experience I see no difference in terminal effect of latest generation of lead free ammo on deer. I get a cleaner carcass and much less wastage of meat. And I know that I am put lead into my own personal food chain. I am happy paying more for my bullets, compared to cheap lead.
But if I am shooting gongs - its cheap PPU bullets for me.
Looks like they didn't have enough business!
Copper and tin are metal too, and venison labels in supermarkets state 'bullet metal may be present'.
Not sure where these special lead detection machines can be found outside of a laboratory
Leupsak
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Looks like they didn't have enough business!
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Copper and tin are metal too, and venison labels in supermarkets state 'bullet metal may be present'.
Not sure where these special lead detection machines can be found outside of a laboratory
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You’re obviously not in the food trade to believe there is no business in detection
or you are supplying dealers not yet accepting of modern food standards or public pressures.
Not going to enter into any further discussion as you seem to be entrenched in an ill formed mind set that any opposing factual stance will not influence.
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Heym SR20
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And as for inflation, well the electorate voted for Boris. We were all warned of dangers of Brexit, and then the dangers of Boris. But we told we are whining remoaners, communists, lefties etc etc etc.
The country is hugely in debt, we rely on cheap imports all of which require hard currency to buy and we have to compete on the global market for everything we import. Nobody wants British goods and services - they simply don’t trust the UK so our currency is devalued, which compounds the fact that we have to compete on the global market, making everything we buy even more expensive.
And as for wages going up, well if employers are having to pay more for the goods, their margins are going down, so that means less money to pay wages, and certainly much less money to pay bonuses etc.
And because of our political shenanigans, capital is moving away from the UK - investors can move their capital elsewhere, which means lack of investment in the UK, which means less competitiveness, which means continued downward spiral.
I have lived and worked in the developing world, believe me we have seen nothing yet. Take Zimbabwe - a basic new Toyota Hilux costs over US$100,000 by the time it arrives in the country and all the import taxes, sales taxes etc etc are paid. A typical middle class Zimbabwean still cannot afford a car.
The country is hugely in debt, we rely on cheap imports all of which require hard currency to buy and we have to compete on the global market for everything we import. Nobody wants British goods and services - they simply don’t trust the UK so our currency is devalued, which compounds the fact that we have to compete on the global market, making everything we buy even more expensive.
And as for wages going up, well if employers are having to pay more for the goods, their margins are going down, so that means less money to pay wages, and certainly much less money to pay bonuses etc.
And because of our political shenanigans, capital is moving away from the UK - investors can move their capital elsewhere, which means lack of investment in the UK, which means less competitiveness, which means continued downward spiral.
I have lived and worked in the developing world, believe me we have seen nothing yet. Take Zimbabwe - a basic new Toyota Hilux costs over US$100,000 by the time it arrives in the country and all the import taxes, sales taxes etc etc are paid. A typical middle class Zimbabwean still cannot afford a car.
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