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Those cutters are worth less than £10! . Mug tax .
I support all country pursuits in principle, but that support is not uncritical and it has to be earned through good practice. If we turn a blind eye to blatant abuses in our midst we all get tarred with the same brush and we will all go down together. It doesn't matter whether it's an errant hunt, a greedy and badly managed driven game shoot or irresponsible individuals involved in deer management or vermin control.
Yes, I must agree with you. My previous reply was aimed at the quote that many of Mikey's friends don't think they should support foxhunting regardless of the fact that it may be done to 'best practice' or not. I don't think we should be hanging out one type of field sport hoping that it may save another, the world doesn't work like that.
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A few local estates that liked the hunt fox control was a big no no, (atleast officially
No dog is born fully trained, so yes, of course I have. But never to the extent that it crossed my boundary and started ragging someone else's stock.
Same as any other breed of dog, if a sheepdog isn't properly trained and cared for then it's going to get into trouble. There's no excuse for it though. Such dogs are generally shot by the neighbours pdq.
Would you go poaching with a dog you couldn't trust? I wouldn't. Too risky. A poacher can't simply hide behind a cloak of respectability and pomposity in the way that huntsmen do when things go wrong, so the poacher's dog has to be well enough trained to keep him out of trouble. Probably a lot more skill goes into training that sort of dog than into loosing a pack of hounds into the countryside and letting them get on with it.
I was very tolerant once upon a time, and I have hunted and shot driven game in the past. However, what I've seen and experienced first hand over recent years has caused me to change my views somewhat. It's the sheer arrogance of the participants that has finished it for me. That's what'll be the death of these particular fieldsports - the attitude of the participants, rather than the practice itself.
Indeed, she's been in the job all of two days now, and has put deer on the deck already. No doubt many more deer will follow suit over the coming weeks, months and years, but I doubt she'll be brazenly trespassing on other people's ground to do it.
Trained sheepdogs? The two I'm talking about worked their own sheep but killed other people's. I was asked to shoot them both.
Well said, I was part of a foot pack hunting with hounds for many years, many keepers on the estates used to say, there are foxes there and we can't get near them.
Yes it’s a vital conservation tool whether antis like it or not but we will lose it due to the behaviour of mounted packs.
Understood and totally agree. All the more reason to stop giving them ammunition!!I presume you're talking of the mounted packs in Scotland, rather than South of the border?
Even so, putting the blame on them is misplaced.
Whilst the Greens have committed to ban entirely the "flushing to guns" loophole, which allows any number of dogs to be used to flush foxes to guns in Scotland as opposed to the two-dog limit in England, they have a visceral hatred of all fieldsports and are now working alongside their friends in the SNP to enact their prejudices..
They really couldn't give a fig whether it's a vital conservation tool or not, hence why they worked to ban the killing of beavers.
Sounds like the Dumfries Shire then the D with Stewartry added. I used to carry the gun when they started. Always 10 bore No3 copper coated shot.Cheers willie
The whole english hunting thing is completely alien to me, althou 2 of the gun packs i followed came up here for the 'better ban' as they could effectively hunt as normal as always shot the foxes anyway
The hunts must be a bit different down south, the old hunt had a lot more loyal following and had ran from same estate/kennels for generations but it changed when the old laird died and the hunting 'ban' came in in scotland that pack sort of disbanded and reformed 30 miles away.
Aye it must be a more ingrained social thing down there, i always could never understand why farmers would allow them on their land at this time of year otherwise, esp when no longer killing foxes
I don't think my area is not that involved with it now, just the odd 1 or 2 places they still meet .
But even with the old pack they would never fix fences or anything like that, and definately no fox control, really just the knacker man, not even sure if that still happens now.
A few local estates that liked the hunt fox control was a big no no, (atleast officially
The antis have the single purpose of mind to shut down / bankrupt any shoot that they so wish. There is a car parked outside our local hunt kennels every day from before dawn in the hope the hunt go out so they can follow and sab. A hunt in the midlands with a history of hundred of years was shut down by the incessant attention of just a couple of Sabs (Or at least they claim that). Any big commercial shooting several days a week can be shut down by a determined group of Sabs. Driven game is very vulnerable, and they are fanatics.
