Foxhounds uninvited appearance

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Rhodesianjess said:
Update to my original post everyone.
Shot on Saturday, included two of the woods that the hounds drew. Found two muntjac in one,one in the other. You never seen such a sight,all three torn to pieces. It honestly looked like a pack of hyena had pulled them to pieces.
All surrounded by dog prints of foxhound size. Boss inspected them after I blew up for end of drive,his face was a picture. Then repeated when we found the single one two drives later.
Suffice to say, I honestly think that's the last time the hounds will be allowed on us, prior arrangement or just running on.
Will post his decision once he's told me the outcome of his meeting with them, presumably backed up by the pictures he took on his phone of the deer,the flattened gamecover with hoofprints everywhere, the rides with hoofprints churning them up, quad bike tracks through gamecover and along rides, the list goes on.
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Sorry to hear this, I can honestly say I’ve never heard of foxhounds doing this, so must be some real issues with that pack.
 
willie_gunn said:
Not the Albany & West Lodge by any chance?

They used to come down to Kent and hunt our country (by invitation!). Loved listening to them when they were hunting the line of a hare.
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The Albany and Westerby used to be two packs kenneled in the same place at South Kilworth. Years ago I knew one of their Masters when I whipped in to and hunted the NW Harehounds. They later became the North Warwickshire Beagles and have now, like The Atherstone given in to anti pressure and packed up . I think the Albany are now one pack, they come once a year and chase those big rabbits about. A great bit of fun.🤣
 
Dave Lakes said:
While we’ve got the tarring brush out, just remember that anti’s (i.e the people who push and lobby for changes to our ways of life) see hunting in the same light as pigeon control and deer stalking.

While hunts in whatever form exist, they absorb a huge amount of attention and effort from those who would see us all done away with. Be under no illusion that sab groups will just hang up their balaclava and call it a day once all hunting finishes.

No excuse for badly behaved hunts, but be careful not to throw the baby out with the bath water.
Divided we fall.
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Came here to say this. Spot on.

Hunting has shielded shooting for decades, worth contemplation. Antis are going no where, once the remnants of hunting is polished off the evil eye turns to us for good.
 
VSS said:
No dog is born fully trained, so yes, of course I have. But never to the extent that it crossed my boundary and started ragging someone else's stock.

Same as any other breed of dog, if a sheepdog isn't properly trained and cared for then it's going to get into trouble. There's no excuse for it though. Such dogs are generally shot by the neighbours pdq.

Would you go poaching with a dog you couldn't trust? I wouldn't. Too risky. A poacher can't simply hide behind a cloak of respectability and pomposity in the way that huntsmen do when things go wrong, so the poacher's dog has to be well enough trained to keep him out of trouble. Probably a lot more skill goes into training that sort of dog than into loosing a pack of hounds into the countryside and letting them get on with it.

I was very tolerant once upon a time, and I have hunted and shot driven game in the past. However, what I've seen and experienced first hand over recent years has caused me to change my views somewhat. It's the sheer arrogance of the participants that has finished it for me. That's what'll be the death of these particular fieldsports - the attitude of the participants, rather than the practice itself.

Indeed, she's been in the job all of two days now, and has put deer on the deck already. No doubt many more deer will follow suit over the coming weeks, months and years, but I doubt she'll be brazenly trespassing on other people's ground to do it.
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You are training probably the most biddable breed there is. There is a reason that Agilty and Obedience competitions are dominated by collies, in fact they have special classes that collies aren’t allowed, in Agility they are called ABC, anything but a collie. Try training any hound breed it is a different kettle of fish. My wife has competed at obedience with our whippets and even done demonstrations at Crufts with them, but there isn’t one alive that given the right set of circumstances don’t revert to type and turn into fur seeking missile. Some sighthounds such as greyhounds will stop as soon as the target goes out of sight, others such as whippets will put their nose down and carry on. To have a pack of foxhounds does take incredible levels of skill, the thread I believe it’s called. I’ve seen a pack of hounds go through a farmyard look at a cat, look at the huntsman and keep with him, but I’m sure there would be other days in different circumstances the cat would be chopped. There but the grace of God go I.
 
on a side note just spoke to two farmer in a small village 30 + lurcher skum turned up last week with multiple cars from uninsured vans to 70 plate range rover, pushed bailes outnof a gate drove over the crops, the farmers blocked them in and called police, the skum then came back chucked bricks ar the farmers £1000s of damage to his truck by the skum and threats of violence! with skum and stupid involved we dont need antis they are their own worst enemies.

hounds killing multiple deer is shocking, especially this late in the season shows a **** poor attitude
 
shakey jake said:
on a side note just spoke to two farmer in a small village 30 + lurcher skum turned up last week with multiple cars from uninsured vans to 70 plate range rover, pushed bailes outnof a gate drove over the crops, the farmers blocked them in and called police, the skum then came back chucked bricks ar the farmers £1000s of damage to his truck by the skum and threats of violence! with skum and stupid involved we dont need antis they are their own worst enemies.

hounds killing multiple deer is shocking, especially this late in the season shows a **** poor attitude
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These will be pi-keys betting on whose dog can kill the most hares out of 3 or 5 courses, big-money game. The best way to deal with these is to drop a couple of the dogs, they don't come back for a long time apparently :tiphat:
 
Bo Diddley said:
These will be pi-keys betting on whose dog can kill the most hares out of 3 or 5 courses, big-money game. The best way to deal with these is to drop a couple of the dogs, they don't come back for a long time apparently :tiphat:
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i wish the police would bring this in as a policy
 
Rhodesianjess said:
Update to my original post everyone.
Shot on Saturday, included two of the woods that the hounds drew. Found two muntjac in one,one in the other. You never seen such a sight,all three torn to pieces. It honestly looked like a pack of hyena had pulled them to pieces.
All surrounded by dog prints of foxhound size. Boss inspected them after I blew up for end of drive,his face was a picture. Then repeated when we found the single one two drives later.
Suffice to say, I honestly think that's the last time the hounds will be allowed on us, prior arrangement or just running on.
Will post his decision once he's told me the outcome of his meeting with them, presumably backed up by the pictures he took on his phone of the deer,the flattened gamecover with hoofprints everywhere, the rides with hoofprints churning them up, quad bike tracks through gamecover and along rides, the list goes on.
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But what about the pheasants. That's what you were complaining about wasn't it? Two or three dead munties make little difference to anything IMO. Plenty more came to their funeral I'm sure!
 
baguio said:
But what about the pheasants. That's what you were complaining about wasn't it? Two or three dead munties make little difference to anything IMO. Plenty more came to their funeral I'm sure!
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No, he wasn't complaining about the pheasants. In the OP he merely states that the hunt had been asked, in writing, to stay off until the end of the pheasant season, which is not the same thing at all.
The issue is whether it's OK to hunt someone else's land without their permission? A surprising number of the responses in this thread are from people who clearly thing it's OK for the hunt to do that. (Ater all, it's only a couple of muntjac. So what?). This is great news for people struggling to find ground to stalk on: Simply look through this thread, identify those posters, then rock up uninvited on their ground and shoot their deer. They won't mind, honest. Country folk have to stick together blah blah blah.
 
Any hunt which slayed muntjac as a matter of course would not be able to function in deer country. Not just making landowner relationships very difficult but the actual practicalities of running a days hunting, would make it impossible if they go haring off after every deer.
 
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