Pets at home dont seem to have a problem
Sale of live rabbits
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deerstalker.308
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Sorry to correct but the term “Breck” came from olde English for break to mean break in long term fallow as the nutrients were so poor they folded sheep and other livestock on ground for periods to fertilise them the were left fallow for long periods before being “broken” and ploughed for cropping….. no reference to bracken.
You're both saying exactly the same thing I think. @Farmer Geddon 's reference to bracken is incidental.
Sorry for misunderstanding. Break land I wasn't referring to bracken, but incidentally the blessed silver birch roots pull up more available nutrients than any other tree, mushrooms have a very symbiotic relationship with the birch.
Between the two of them, they create soil out of some very poor land. Those ancient pagan farmers knew a thing or two! Ever put a cows horn in a muck heap?
Between the two of them, they create soil out of some very poor land. Those ancient pagan farmers knew a thing or two! Ever put a cows horn in a muck heap?
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I can't think of any legislation that means transporting wild rabbits would be illegal. Which is not a definitive answer, but better than some who have just guessed. You'd have to have a thought about what could be construed as cruelty in the process though. If you find an injured animal and transport it to a vets or some injured wild animal centre it's okay. When it gets well again, it's okay to transport it to release back into the wild.
Nope, without spending an inordinate amount of time researching, I would hesitantly say that it's not illegal.
I shoot on a pheasant shoot that has a fair amount of hares about. Indeed a viable population. Originally there were none (or the population was shot out, not sure which) and some years ago (talking double figures and before I was a member) some were caught up and transported from somewhere about 70 odd miles away and released on the shoot. Although I don't shoot them (they're heavy, it's hilly and long walks to the pegs, you've got a load of cartridges and a gun and maybe a pheasant or two to carry back, and you're no spring chicken) a few do find their way into the bag. All of which has very little to do with the matter in question, but I thought I'd tell anyway.
Nope, without spending an inordinate amount of time researching, I would hesitantly say that it's not illegal.
I shoot on a pheasant shoot that has a fair amount of hares about. Indeed a viable population. Originally there were none (or the population was shot out, not sure which) and some years ago (talking double figures and before I was a member) some were caught up and transported from somewhere about 70 odd miles away and released on the shoot. Although I don't shoot them (they're heavy, it's hilly and long walks to the pegs, you've got a load of cartridges and a gun and maybe a pheasant or two to carry back, and you're no spring chicken) a few do find their way into the bag. All of which has very little to do with the matter in question, but I thought I'd tell anyway.
deerstalker.308
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Apologies I read your post in haste!Sorry for misunderstanding. Break land I wasn't referring to bracken, but incidentally the blessed silver birch roots pull up more available nutrients than any other tree, mushrooms have a very symbiotic relationship with the birch.
baguio
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Doesn't sound any better to me Pedro. Those who have just guessed clearly couldn't think of any legislation making it illegal either!
Foxyboy43
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Hmmm. Rabbits to be kept in a fenced in enclosure? I hope they have never watched “The Great Escape” and thought of learning how to tunnel - surely rabbits wouldn’t do that?
Many years ago our local zoo had a wonderful walled-in enclosure for newly imported prairie dogs - low enough on the outside for even little kids to lean over and watch these endearing furry animals going about their business and deep enough on the inside to prevent any escape. The centre of the enclosure was a purpose built earth mound and they took to it like ducks to water. Their habits were beautifully illustrated on a large adjacent board and included their penchant for tunnelling and making underground “towns”. My, how we all marvelled at these busy little animals and their abundance of babies sunning themselves contentedly - the kids loved them and their parents too.
Then one day a pesky little escapee was spotted outside but quickly rounded up and re-incarcerated, problem sorted and everyone laughed, ha, ha, ha. Then another one appeared from no-one knew where, then another and so on. This was long before trail cameras so much man-hours went into watching how these little rascals were escaping and with such evident ease. Turned out one of the main “avenues” of their little town was about 15 yards long and surfaced in the centre of a nearby laurel grove. On reflection, I guess they must have seen the Great Escape to have known to surface inside the tree-line.
In no time the town became more of a sprawling metropolis until it became such a problem that “particularly stern measures” were taken thence ending that particular attraction, period!
Just saying.
Many years ago our local zoo had a wonderful walled-in enclosure for newly imported prairie dogs - low enough on the outside for even little kids to lean over and watch these endearing furry animals going about their business and deep enough on the inside to prevent any escape. The centre of the enclosure was a purpose built earth mound and they took to it like ducks to water. Their habits were beautifully illustrated on a large adjacent board and included their penchant for tunnelling and making underground “towns”. My, how we all marvelled at these busy little animals and their abundance of babies sunning themselves contentedly - the kids loved them and their parents too.
Then one day a pesky little escapee was spotted outside but quickly rounded up and re-incarcerated, problem sorted and everyone laughed, ha, ha, ha. Then another one appeared from no-one knew where, then another and so on. This was long before trail cameras so much man-hours went into watching how these little rascals were escaping and with such evident ease. Turned out one of the main “avenues” of their little town was about 15 yards long and surfaced in the centre of a nearby laurel grove. On reflection, I guess they must have seen the Great Escape to have known to surface inside the tree-line.
In no time the town became more of a sprawling metropolis until it became such a problem that “particularly stern measures” were taken thence ending that particular attraction, period!
Just saying.
Indeed not. However the guessers thought there might be some law to prevent it. Or not. But at least I own up to my faults, (for others to yet further point out). And my educated guess is at least backed up with some knowledge in the field (no pun intended) of rural legislation over an extended period during which I was seconded to officers from Trading Standards engaged in the checking of animal movements and welfare in the farming industry.
However, I would remind the OP that a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing and exhort him to, as they say, do due diligence.
I would of thought that a Flemish Giant rabbit would be a better option for domestic meat and fur, rather than a handful of wild ones.
Talking to my 92 years old stepfather he and his brother as youngsters bred a cross of the Dutch rabbit and the Flemish. Back then the flemish wasn't as big as todays animal.
The idea was that the cross would mature quickly to a nice size with good meat and the fur would throw a variety of colours.
Talking to my 92 years old stepfather he and his brother as youngsters bred a cross of the Dutch rabbit and the Flemish. Back then the flemish wasn't as big as todays animal.
The idea was that the cross would mature quickly to a nice size with good meat and the fur would throw a variety of colours.
New Zealand Whites or Californians would be better. Although they don't get so big as the Flemish they are more economical to rear.
Fursty Ferret
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For christs sake just sell the man the bloody rabbits and stop worry gutting about it
crowe
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Out of interest and if you don’t mind me asking, what are you getting for head shot rabbits?
foxdropper
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You can always say Baguio off SD said it was ok officer .
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Loler UK
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Loler UK
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Hence asking & looking to see if anyone can quote some law as opposed to opinion, there's many learned people on here that can help with these matters.
Loler UK
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Fencing rabbits is easy enough we've eradicated and fenced them out of large areas with plenty of success. 25mm hex mesh 40cm below ground and 80cm above (I prefer 180cm mesh 40-50cm buried) has protected 1000s of acres successfullyHmmm. Rabbits to be kept in a fenced in enclosure? I hope they have never watched “The Great Escape” and thought of learning how to tunnel - surely rabbits wouldn’t do that?
Many years ago our local zoo had a wonderful walled-in enclosure for newly imported prairie dogs - low enough on the outside for even little kids to lean over and watch these endearing furry animals going about their business and deep enough on the inside to prevent any escape. The centre of the enclosure was a purpose built earth mound and they took to it like ducks to water. Their habits were beautifully illustrated on a large adjacent board and included their penchant for tunnelling and making underground “towns”. My, how we all marvelled at these busy little animals and their abundance of babies sunning themselves contentedly - the kids loved them and their parents too.
Then one day a pesky little escapee was spotted outside but quickly rounded up and re-incarcerated, problem sorted and everyone laughed, ha, ha, ha. Then another one appeared from no-one knew where, then another and so on. This was long before trail cameras so much man-hours went into watching how these little rascals were escaping and with such evident ease. Turned out one of the main “avenues” of their little town was about 15 yards long and surfaced in the centre of a nearby laurel grove. On reflection, I guess they must have seen the Great Escape to have known to surface inside the tree-line.
In no time the town became more of a sprawling metropolis until it became such a problem that “particularly stern measures” were taken thence ending that particular attraction, period!
Just saying.
Key is not to fence of an area of existing feeding habits but to leave tunnels in the form of drop traps to allow the rabbits to keep their feeding habit for at least 3-4weeks and to set the traps to catch there after no more than once every 6 nights.
Once the population is thinned down the traps can be set 50% of the time (every other night) then blocked / lifted sealing off the enclosure. If you just fence them out of a high value feeding area they might probe your fence harder & dig deeper that said 30cm is a long way down to dig to access a feeding area. Yes rabbits can dig much deeper but so long as they have all they want they aren't actually very determined.
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