I'm not bitter at all sir.
I just see with my eyes.
Available: Community Deer Stalking at Creag Meagaidh NNR
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I just see with my eyes.
baguio
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Are you for real? You're the one claiming that all contractors are greedy with no morals who are simply out to make a fast buck. You're talking out of your backside I can 100% assure you.
In your opinion , yes.
But you know what opinions are like.
I don't want this to degrade into a dsuk level slanging match.
It's best to park it here.
baguio
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I know what your opinion is like and suspect it's based purely on what someone down the pub told you? It's certainly isn't based on fact. How about you think about what you're posting before you post it because you're slagging off a lot of people who you don't know!
You are reaching for straws with the down the pub bit.
I wish it wasn't based on fact , but it is.
At a contractor's own admission, his own admission, not my assumption, his words right to my face.
Freeforester
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It’s for sure not about sustainability or management of deer - they are viewed as ‘the problem’ in the piece - albeit a problem in a habitat of the land managers’ own making - it’s about maximising pressure on them with a view to eradication/minimising numbers on the area in the bid to help make the scrub there grow. Eventually conditions will be suitable over large tracts of Scotland in order for the lynx and possibly the wolf to be reintroduced, this is the longer term objective, though not everyone recognises or necessarily agrees with the idea.
10,000 acres on any sporting hill estate would not amount to more than 2 stalking beats, but of course it was different there in Beaton the elder’s days. Objectives have changed, and it is a type of ‘progress‘, where the human condition, that of the deer, and sustainable management of the resource and related local community activity, infrastructure and cohesion play second fiddle to the principal objective of now; times have changed for sure. Naturescot are probably looking to make use of extra boots on the ground to reduce numbers and maintain pressure on those deer remaining in the most cost-effective manner. Funny how this approach isn’t that of other public agencies still splurging large sums of taxpayers money on deer control - as yet - as on paper there are relatively few downsides, unless you happen to be the deer.
It reminds me too a little of a similar sized but low ground estate which had 24 Rifles permitted to be on the ground, also run by an agency supremo. That one didn’t end well, but this time it’ll doubtless be different. Many will doubtless watch on at this site with interest too.
Is it stalking though?
10,000 acres on any sporting hill estate would not amount to more than 2 stalking beats, but of course it was different there in Beaton the elder’s days. Objectives have changed, and it is a type of ‘progress‘, where the human condition, that of the deer, and sustainable management of the resource and related local community activity, infrastructure and cohesion play second fiddle to the principal objective of now; times have changed for sure. Naturescot are probably looking to make use of extra boots on the ground to reduce numbers and maintain pressure on those deer remaining in the most cost-effective manner. Funny how this approach isn’t that of other public agencies still splurging large sums of taxpayers money on deer control - as yet - as on paper there are relatively few downsides, unless you happen to be the deer.
It reminds me too a little of a similar sized but low ground estate which had 24 Rifles permitted to be on the ground, also run by an agency supremo. That one didn’t end well, but this time it’ll doubtless be different. Many will doubtless watch on at this site with interest too.
Is it stalking though?
Listen, this was talked about before , and the same old faces popped up saying it was a bad idea.
Community deer managers is a fantastic idea , but yes it needs careful implementation and ongoing oversight.
I know it could possibly take food off people's tables and I'm not advocating that either,it's not a nice thought to see something coming that may harm your finances possibly.
Community deer managers is a fantastic idea , but yes it needs careful implementation and ongoing oversight.
I know it could possibly take food off people's tables and I'm not advocating that either,it's not a nice thought to see something coming that may harm your finances possibly.
In regards to the management of Life,wildlife , there should be nil room in regards to meeting standard.
Don't you agree.
What's that got to do with the price of butter.
Sla* is s strong word,I've not stepped near that mark In regard to language.
It's not just one conversation pal.
Theres much more to it that shaped my personal beliefs.
Read that again, personal.
You chose to put out what you do for a living on here , I didn't come screaming asking for contractors to argue with on a keypad.
It's not just one conversation pal.
Theres much more to it that shaped my personal beliefs.
Read that again, personal.
You chose to put out what you do for a living on here , I didn't come screaming asking for contractors to argue with on a keypad.
Sealgair nam fiadh
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Well, you learn something new every day, today I have learnt that I am greedy and have no morals! 
baguio
Well-Known Member
Me too!Well, you learn something new every day, today I have learnt that I am greedy and have no morals!
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