Bringsel training just for a bit of interest. Not for sale. 16 week old GWP pup. Training for a client. Scenting, tracking, retrieving, ignoring sheep, bringsel work, steady to shot. Getting plenty of time with the other dogs to just be a pup too.
Bringsel training GWP.
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Good work, the dog looks sensible.
Very steady pup, loves to learn, has a good memory and nose.
Just seen the newest video on FB. Great work. Mine is 9 months now but not nearly as steady as your pup. I started him on the deer at 14 weeks and he's now tracked a dozen roe I have shot and dragged across the field before getting him out of the truck to "track" them on a long line. He's got it spot on every time but it's done at a million miles an hour with a great deal of enthusiasm. Being tugged along by 30kg of GWP is a slightly different experience to your very calm video's 
. The last dog was a very good HWV but this one is definitely a turbo charged version. Unreal prey drive I'm having to work hard to steady up. Don't dare take him on a stalk yet. That might be some time off.
. The last dog was a very good HWV but this one is definitely a turbo charged version. Unreal prey drive I'm having to work hard to steady up. Don't dare take him on a stalk yet. That might be some time off.
I'd be interested to know how the two compare regarding pedigrees? I've heard some of the Danish lines are calmer than some German and EE lines?
Mine is very Danish. I specifically went looking for Danish lines as I understood the same. The litter is split, some being turbo charged like mine, others very laid back.
This one’s only 17 weeks old so hasn’t got the power to drag me, but when he is full grown he’ll be going at pace. He has got an off switch though which is good to see.Just seen the newest video on FB. Great work. Mine is 9 months now but not nearly as steady as your pup. I started him on the deer at 14 weeks and he's now tracked a dozen roe I have shot and dragged across the field before getting him out of the truck to "track" them on a long line. He's got it spot on every time but it's done at a million miles an hour with a great deal of enthusiasm. Being tugged along by 30kg of GWP is a slightly different experience to your very calm video's
The pup in the video is half danish and also from mirko v Bockenhagen lines. Very calm, but also has the hunting drive.
countrryboy
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Aye usually a very different look about the dog too, a far smaller stamp of a dog usually with a far smoother coat from the danish type lines.
Prsonally i wouldn't have a big hairy DD type male dog as a gift, only my opinion thou
Still plenty of 'go' about them. Chris from trudvang have always ben very strong danish lines and his run very hard at FT, i know he has made 1 FTCH up, ( been a while since i have heard much or been at a FT so a wee touch out of touch) but his dogs are hard hunting but still very biddable and most also work deer too
all mixed up in the uk now the gene pool 15-20 years ago meant that was always gonna happen
That’s why I bring relatively pure bred dogs in from Germany that have been through the tests, got good scores, work them for a year and then breed from them. They seem to be totally different to the majority of the dogs you get over here. High drive hunting machines, great coats and conformation but calm with an immediate off switch and with fantastic temperaments.
When you say 'pure-bred' do you mean from German lines? The world is such a small place now. With our breed there has always been line-crossing between Scandinavia and Germany - especially from the 1920's onwards. We then had top quality working lines from Scandinavia (and Germany to a lesser degree) going over to two very prominent kennels in Italy and later still, one of the top Spanish kennels breeds very much from traditional German and Scandinavian lines.
In essence, I could go to the said Spanish kennel today and buy a pup with a more 'traditional' German lines than the majority of the kennels in Germany. Basically, with travelling the globe as easy as it is, I do not look for at country the dog is bred in, I look back at the kennels within the pedigree and ensure that I am getting what I want - regardless of where in the world the breeder happens to live.
PS....Sorry to divert from your excellent training video.
Siggy
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DD's are medium size dogs, not large, and hair longer that 2" is a fault so you are likely to get "gifted" it because it ain't suitable for the breeding program.Prsonally i wouldn't have a big hairy DD type male dog as a gift, only my opinion thou
Larger GWPs got popular in the UK because deer managers liked them that way.
Hairy GWPs mainly stem from a prominent kennel that imported from Holland and Rory Majors first GWP shaggy great thing.
German or Scandinavian lines but that have passed the german tests. If they have good scores in the various tests and have the “right looks” - good coat, Germanic short powerful head, conformation, muscularity and temperament and health tested then at least you are off to a good start. By trying to bring in fresh blood to improve the shape, coat, power, and temperament it should help the breed standard in the UK. It seems that in general, and there are exceptions, I think the breed in the UK is leaning to the American bird dog way with taller lighter boned dogs rather than the heavier more powerful dogs that have the weight and power for deer without losing the speed and agility for rough and driven shooting work which makes the GWP what it was meant to be, a multi purpose hunting dog. As to a shaggy GWP coat, its easy to strip a dog to reduce the density and length as long as the coat itself is of good quality. Some dogs need doing every 8 weeks and some once a year. A shaggy dog will usually go into any cover, and a close coated without face fur will usually hesitate but may be better on moors as less likely to overheat so that part is just where and what you want it to do. More attention needs to be paid to a dogs mentality in terms of drive, steadiness, and attitude than to what it looks like. The breeder should be able to give a purchaser a pretty solid steer about what a dogs going to be like by 6 - 7 weeks old. No problem about diverting.
Interesting, thanks for sharing.
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