Pulsar Axion 2 XQ35 LRF owner reviews

@theroedeerguy

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I’ve got that feeling of starting to go round in circles.

About to buy my first thermal and fancy one with an lrf.

Had a look through the XQ35 LRF, XG35 LRF and the infiray Fh35r at the Gamefair.

XQ35 was good but obviously the displays on both the XG35 and fh35r were even better albeit at pretty much £1000 extra.

It’s intended use is 80% lowland Roe stalking and 20% fox control.

Am I going to see any real difference in performance spending the extra money or will I account for just as many deer and foxes with the XQ35?

Thanks in advance.
 
You’ll find every thing with an XQ, it’s just a fair bit clearer what you are looking at with the Infiray Finder ii FH35 R. Superb screen, and great functional LRF onboard, ie contained within the Finder ii body, rather than a bolt on/appendage. Superb aesthetics in the hand. Buy once…
 
I have an older Pulsar Quantum XQ38 that I bought about 6 years ago. It is as good as my friends Helion XQ38 that he bought a year ago. I also wanted a LRF model so I bought an Iray Finder 11 FH35 R before the Axion LRF were available. As Freeforester says the clarity is superb. However for spotting stuff my old Quantum is as good as the Iray and I would Imagine that the Axion XQ35 would be the same.
 
I have an older Pulsar Quantum XQ38 that I bought about 6 years ago. It is as good as my friends Helion XQ38 that he bought a year ago. I also wanted a LRF model so I bought an Iray Finder 11 FH35 R before the Axion LRF were available. As Freeforester says the clarity is superb. However for spotting stuff my old Quantum is as good as the Iray and I would Imagine that the Axion XQ35 would be the same.
Exactly my own scenario and sentiment toward the Quantum XQ 38, which was/is a ‘design classic‘ in my view, albeit with only stadia rangefinder, which is of limited value, but the optical performance of the Quantum along with its superb form factor placed it at least on a par with the Helion model Pulsar replaced it with. The Finder ii is in another league, though.
 
I’ve got an XQ35 LRF and think it’s fantastic….fits well in the hand, fits into a pocket, and much more compact than some of the monstrosities out there.

Not sure there is £1000 of difference when you look through an XG vs an XQ….to my eyes it wasn’t that much better.

Regards,
Gixer
 
I am probably one of the few people to have used both the older XQ38 the newer XQ35 and now the XG35. By “used” I mean taken it stalking 2-3 times a week for a period of at least 6 months, not just a YouTube back garden review or dogs at the local park.

LRF is a personal subjective thing so you either need it, have it on your binos or don’t need it. I won’t advise you either way.

The upgrade from the older XQ38 to the XQ35 is noticeable but I think allot of that is down to software rather than hardware. Obviously both will spot a heat spot at hundreds and hundreds of yards but it probably needs to be in the 200-300 yard bracket before you can id something as a deer. Beyond that it could be a horse, sheep, fox or a deer. I have been in situations where at those kind of ranges (in the conditions of the time) I couldn’t determine between a horse and a red deer or on another occasion a fox and a muntjac. Not confidently anyway. Obviously binos / animal movement worked it out at the time, but I am trying to give you an idea of performance in the real world. Allot of the online stuff is guys looking at their dogs in the garden from about 20 yards. Most thermals look pretty good at short range and the marketing guys take full advantage. The XG range is a different story really. You can in my opinion push that useful id range mentioned above range out to nearly 400 yards and sub 200 you can usually determine muntjac, roe or fallow etc from the body shape. Obviously size can usually do this as well but if you ignored that or were poor a judging distances the thermal performance is good enough. Sub 100 you are starting to get antler and velvet kind of detail on even the smaller deer. Another real world use for me is determining if that heat spot in the cover is a deer head or a pheasant, hare etc. With the older XQ38 and to a certain extent XQ35 I was spending allot of time on the binos looking at some of the 30,000 pheasants that the shoot puts down. It’s a problem that will never go away completely but the XG35 seems to give me the ability to walk on so much more.

In my humble opinion the XG35 is only about 10-15% behind the performance of its more expensive and much larger Helion XP50 pro cousin. Again I have used an XP50 pro stalking a fair bit so I feel qualified to compare. Just like high end optics though that 10% improvement can be very very expensive. It’s probably worth saying that movement of your target usually helps allot with id and the higher detail level the better you can judge that movement and determine if it’s a rabbit or hare or fox or badger etc. Hard to explain but you can’t see a white blob on a mushy background really move. A blob which you can determine leg length and see enough background detail starts to come alive when it moves and you just see “fox” etc.

I think you probably need to buy the thermal that based on the above gives you the level of detail you need and/or can afford. If you are happy to just know that there is a something hot over there then go cheap. If you want to know that the blob is probably a deer or stands a fair chance or being a deer at say 200 yards then probably the XQ. If you want to be certain it’s a deer and start to get the level of detail that can determine between a muntjac and a roe at 200 or see a fallow buck in velvet at 300 odd yards then XG or Helion I guess.
 
I am probably one of the few people to have used both the older XQ38 the newer XQ35 and now the XG35. By “used” I mean taken it stalking 2-3 times a week for a period of at least 6 months, not just a YouTube back garden review or dogs at the local park.

LRF is a personal subjective thing so you either need it, have it on your binos or don’t need it. I won’t advise you either way.

The upgrade from the older XQ38 to the XQ35 is noticeable but I think allot of that is down to software rather than hardware. Obviously both will spot a heat spot at hundreds and hundreds of yards but it probably needs to be in the 200-300 yard bracket before you can id something as a deer. Beyond that it could be a horse, sheep, fox or a deer. I have been in situations where at those kind of ranges (in the conditions of the time) I couldn’t determine between a horse and a red deer or on another occasion a fox and a muntjac. Not confidently anyway. Obviously binos / animal movement worked it out at the time, but I am trying to give you an idea of performance in the real world. Allot of the online stuff is guys looking at their dogs in the garden from about 20 yards. Most thermals look pretty good at short range and the marketing guys take full advantage. The XG range is a different story really. You can in my opinion push that useful id range mentioned above range out to nearly 400 yards and sub 200 you can usually determine muntjac, roe or fallow etc from the body shape. Obviously size can usually do this as well but if you ignored that or were poor a judging distances the thermal performance is good enough. Sub 100 you are starting to get antler and velvet kind of detail on even the smaller deer. Another real world use for me is determining if that heat spot in the cover is a deer head or a pheasant, hare etc. With the older XQ38 and to a certain extent XQ35 I was spending allot of time on the binos looking at some of the 30,000 pheasants that the shoot puts down. It’s a problem that will never go away completely but the XG35 seems to give me the ability to walk on so much more.

In my humble opinion the XG35 is only about 10-15% behind the performance of its more expensive and much larger Helion XP50 pro cousin. Again I have used an XP50 pro stalking a fair bit so I feel qualified to compare. Just like high end optics though that 10% improvement can be very very expensive. It’s probably worth saying that movement of your target usually helps allot with id and the higher detail level the better you can judge that movement and determine if it’s a rabbit or hare or fox or badger etc. Hard to explain but you can’t see a white blob on a mushy background really move. A blob which you can determine leg length and see enough background detail starts to come alive when it moves and you just see “fox” etc.

I think you probably need to buy the thermal that based on the above gives you the level of detail you need and/or can afford. If you are happy to just know that there is a something hot over there then go cheap. If you want to know that the blob is probably a deer or stands a fair chance or being a deer at say 200 yards then probably the XQ. If you want to be certain it’s a deer and start to get the level of detail that can determine between a muntjac and a roe at 200 or see a fallow buck in velvet at 300 odd yards then XG or Helion I guess.
Thank you for taking the time to write such a useful review, very helpful and very much appreciated.
 
I am probably one of the few people to have used both the older XQ38 the newer XQ35 and now the XG35. By “used” I mean taken it stalking 2-3 times a week for a period of at least 6 months, not just a YouTube back garden review or dogs at the local park.

LRF is a personal subjective thing so you either need it, have it on your binos or don’t need it. I won’t advise you either way.

The upgrade from the older XQ38 to the XQ35 is noticeable but I think allot of that is down to software rather than hardware. Obviously both will spot a heat spot at hundreds and hundreds of yards but it probably needs to be in the 200-300 yard bracket before you can id something as a deer. Beyond that it could be a horse, sheep, fox or a deer. I have been in situations where at those kind of ranges (in the conditions of the time) I couldn’t determine between a horse and a red deer or on another occasion a fox and a muntjac. Not confidently anyway. Obviously binos / animal movement worked it out at the time, but I am trying to give you an idea of performance in the real world. Allot of the online stuff is guys looking at their dogs in the garden from about 20 yards. Most thermals look pretty good at short range and the marketing guys take full advantage. The XG range is a different story really. You can in my opinion push that useful id range mentioned above range out to nearly 400 yards and sub 200 you can usually determine muntjac, roe or fallow etc from the body shape. Obviously size can usually do this as well but if you ignored that or were poor a judging distances the thermal performance is good enough. Sub 100 you are starting to get antler and velvet kind of detail on even the smaller deer. Another real world use for me is determining if that heat spot in the cover is a deer head or a pheasant, hare etc. With the older XQ38 and to a certain extent XQ35 I was spending allot of time on the binos looking at some of the 30,000 pheasants that the shoot puts down. It’s a problem that will never go away completely but the XG35 seems to give me the ability to walk on so much more.

In my humble opinion the XG35 is only about 10-15% behind the performance of its more expensive and much larger Helion XP50 pro cousin. Again I have used an XP50 pro stalking a fair bit so I feel qualified to compare. Just like high end optics though that 10% improvement can be very very expensive. It’s probably worth saying that movement of your target usually helps allot with id and the higher detail level the better you can judge that movement and determine if it’s a rabbit or hare or fox or badger etc. Hard to explain but you can’t see a white blob on a mushy background really move. A blob which you can determine leg length and see enough background detail starts to come alive when it moves and you just see “fox” etc.

I think you probably need to buy the thermal that based on the above gives you the level of detail you need and/or can afford. If you are happy to just know that there is a something hot over there then go cheap. If you want to know that the blob is probably a deer or stands a fair chance or being a deer at say 200 yards then probably the XQ. If you want to be certain it’s a deer and start to get the level of detail that can determine between a muntjac and a roe at 200 or see a fallow buck in velvet at 300 odd yards then XG or Helion I guess.
springbok, thanks so much for that info. I have just placed an order for the XG LRF a couple of days ago and I am really looking forward to having it out. Cheer, RS
 
Did you go for the XG? If so, how are you finding it? Thanks
I’m still saving……. although a friend sent me footage from his Hik 35mm Falcon which has got me thinking about going for something like the Hik Falcon FQ35 and changing my binoculars to a range finding pair.
 
I’m still saving……. although a friend sent me footage from his Hik 35mm Falcon which has got me thinking about going for something like the Hik Falcon FQ35 and changing my binoculars to a range finding pair.
Just been through a similar thought process. Think I've decided to upgrade my xm30s to XG35LRF rather than the my slc's to EL range. I think the thermal upgrade would be of more benefit to me.
 
I bought a brand new Pulsar Axion 2 XG35 LRF 3 weeks ago and it has developed a fault which has required it to be returned to Thomas Jacks for repair.

Not impressed.
 
I bought a brand new Pulsar Axion 2 XG35 LRF 3 weeks ago and it has developed a fault which has required it to be returned to Thomas Jacks for repair.

Not impressed.
What fault ?
You are the first one I have heard of having a problem
 
I bought a brand new Pulsar Axion 2 XG35 LRF 3 weeks ago and it has developed a fault which has required it to be returned to Thomas Jacks for repair.

Not impressed.
Yes i bought the exact same last month from mcclouds, on testing it had like a minute black pixel, spoke with Toby he was very good, said return it and i'll send you another new one out, which he did, this one has a minute like water mark showing in the display.
Ive returned my 6 year old xq38f off to Thomas Jacks for repair, spoke to them about my xg35 lrf problem, they said we will log your complaint on this if a any time within the next 3 year you can return it to use and we will look/sort it, i'm going to put up with this minute problem because --------its costing me to keep returning it, Mcclouds cannot keep sending me a new one out, they will return it to TJ's for repair, now is not a good time as i'll not have a thermal spotter at all ----not good.

"Just a heads up lads" over the last 3 months iv'e had some cracking deals off Mcclouds and Blackwood outdoors, get in touch for a price if your interested in owt.

Dave (warbucks)
 
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