Lost bird - I should just get over this, but a bad vibe lingers.

Pine Marten

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Hello everyone.

I just thought I’d share a reasonably common experience that just sits uneasy on my conscience, more so than I perhaps expected. Last Saturday I was backgunning on a walked up section of our little shoot, with YPM just behind me. Over the bushes climbed a hen pheasant, and I shot it at tree-height in front and to my left. The first shot killed it stone dead but I’d not been on great form, so I put a second shot into it out before I registered that I didn’t need to, so surprised was I at the result. It plummeted over the tops of the trees and disappeared into the bushes. Between where we stood and the area where it presumably landed was genuinely impenetrable scrub, brambles and assorted thorns. “No problem” I thought, making a mental note of where it was and surrounded visual cues, “we’ll come back and find it from the other side”. YPM (9 yrs young now) insisted that he could get through the brambles and find it, but I didn’t want him tearing himself to shreds and wanted to keep up with the group. When it was over, we headed back to find the bird. And we couldn’t find it. Others came to help with assorted gundogs. No sign of it. I decided to call it off after half an hour or so as it was late afternoon, people needed to move onto the final section and daylight would soon be in short supply, much as it pained me. But YPM wouldn’t hear of it. He was incandescent with rage with me for giving up. He was literally crying with fury and frustration that I’d stopped him from going after the bird immediately through the thorns, insisting that he, with his much smaller stature, would have made it through.

And the thing is, with hindsight, he was probably right, and I made the wrong call. He’s been on quite a few shoot days now and actually has a decent idea of what needs doing. Next time, I will trust him.

It’s four days since the event now and this cloud lingers. We have one shoot day left and we’ll need some glorious act of joint sportsmanship to wipe away this stain. It all sounds over-dramatic, I know, but I think it’s because YPM was there to witness it that it leaves such a bad vibe.

There you go, perhaps it helps to confess one’s sins…
 
Rejoice in the fact that YPM is turning out to be a fine sportsman, with a true respect for the quarry.

We have probably all been there at some point - a bird that is apparently "dead in the air" that subsequently cannot be found. It could have been caught up in a tree, or disappeared down a rabbit hole where even the best gun dog will not find it. Disappointing as it is not to retrieve it, the fact is that you treated it with the respect it deserved and have done your utmost to find it.

As they say c'est la chasse.
 
It happens, unfortunately. Your conscience should be absolved because:
a) it was killed cleanly and not wounded
b) you actually bothered to look for it and personally oversaw the search, unlike many commercial days where the guns saunter off and assume the picker-uppers and their dogs are telepathic
 
I wouldn't worry too much. It could have been dangerous to leave the peg during the drive and even if the pheasant wasn't totally dead I suspect it will have been found by a badger or fox very quickly
 
Good to see YPM actually cares about it. Don’t feel too guilty as it may well have already been snaffled by Charlie 🦊
As far as I'm aware, Charlie has been "evicted". But Brock, well, that's different. Most likely thing is that it landed in the deepest, most impenetrable pile of brambles and stayed there invisible and suspended off the ground.
 
Does my absolute head in when people shoot so thing and don't bother looking for it. I see it quite a bit!

Good on you for going back and looking, I feel bad aswell when you can't find it. Feels like such a waste.

I shot one a few weeks back and it landed In a pile of miscanthus searched high and low for 20 min to no avail.

Went back had some lunch and took a few more dogs and found it. I knew it was there was just a case of finding it!
 
Shame but at least you gave it a good go. YPM was probably right, another 20 minutes searching might have been successful. ( it might not have been as well). Two possibilis spring to mind, a bird with a broken wing at shoulder comes down like a dead bird but can run and run, or it was dead but hung up in bushes.

I can still remember lost birds from 30 years ago, still bugs me now.
 
My last dog was brilliant at marking birds, and went on long retrieves nearly always bringing back a bird of the appropriate sex, but I often wondered if it was the same bird - no way of knowing or did she choose the right sex to keep me happy?
 
It's very frustrating but sometimes happens. Birds we're sure are stone dead sometimes revive and leg it, and it is astonishing how quick foxes or cats can be to get onto shot game. I've seen some very high birds shot apparently stone dead hit the ground so hard they bounced and half plucked themselves on impact later get up and run or even fly off as though nothing had happened.

I'm still annoyed about birds whose fall I've marked pretty accurately on ground I know like the back of my hand and spent up to 90 minutes searching for including using dogs.

I'd have let the boy search straight away. Next time take him some gloves etc. and let him do his magic. He's never going to begrudge some scratches or cuts gained retrieving a tricky bird himself. Make the most of it, before too long he'll be the one shooting and sending you into the brambles to retrieve his birds.
 
I'd have let the boy search straight away. Next time take him some gloves etc. and let him do his magic. He's never going to begrudge some scratches or cuts gained retrieving a tricky bird himself. Make the most of it, before too long he'll be the one shooting and sending you into the brambles to retrieve his birds.
Yes, I will next time. Lesson learnt. Now I need to make up for it next time. Last chance to catch up with that hare!
 
Is there a chance someone else's dog picked it up in the time between you shooting it and returning to look for it ,I've seen that plenty of times
 
You did what you could. I've had it happen with pigeons .. Dead-in-the-air birds that fall into heavy undergrowth and then disappear from planet Earth somehow. I did once find one (after a lot of scrabbling around and swearing) that had gone straight down a bunny hole. It was a good 2 1/2 feet from the surface and I'm not even sure how I spotted it when I did.
Rest assured that your 'lost' bird will have ended up as someones/somethings dinner in fairly sort order.
 
I tend to go and look for lost ones the day after on our shoot

Its amazing how a bird that was searched for on a shoot day is picked so easily the day after - must give off more smell ?

Used to shoot on a big estate and once heard the words - dont worry they are dead - no we dont want to disturb that drive so leave them
Never shot there again and never will - Good on YPM ! a true sportsman in the making
 
I tend to go and look for lost ones the day after on our shoot

Its amazing how a bird that was searched for on a shoot day is picked so easily the day after - must give off more smell ?

Used to shoot on a big estate and once heard the words - dont worry they are dead - no we dont want to disturb that drive so leave them
Never shot there again and never will - Good on YPM ! a true sportsman in the making
You need a very good dog to pick runners from amongst fresh birds or worse birds that are tired
 
If the pheasant fell into thick brambles it could have well got caught up in the brambles well of the ground. I've seen them many times like that. Seen the spaniel hunting round for a pheasant they can smell but its a meter and a half above their nose.
 
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