Thermal spotters for spectacle wearers?

alasdair

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I wear spectacles - short sighted + astigmatism.
Now a days, in my 70's, with my near vision requiring assistance I wear transitional (vari-focal) specs most of the time.
But for stalking I wear single (distance) vision lenses and peer under or over them if I need to look at my phone or watch.
I find quality bino's and scopes (spotting and rifle- ) work well with keeping my (single vision) specs on all the time. For a while I tried wearing vari-focals while stalking but find that the view and accuracy with the rifle-scope is better with single vision specs. I don't take my specs off in the field as a) I can't see without them and b) if I take them off to use bins or scope, I'll put them down somewhere then can't see to find them!

With my current Pulsar Axion XM38, I find it works best with the rubber eye piece folded back down on itself and then looking through my spectacles - but this gives me a slightly reduced field of view compared with taking specs off. Wish thermal imagers had adjustable - screw in/out - eye pieces as on Swaro' and Leica bino's, which allows full functionality for spectacle wearers!

So my question is: can folk tell me which thermal imagers have truly spectacle friendly eye-piece(s) allowing the same sort of flexibility as that found on those high end bino's, without loss of field of view? I'm looking for the experience of folk who have tried actually using the thermal imagers in the field with spectacles as I find that a quick peek through them in the shop or at the game fair is not the same as actually using them in the field. (before you suggest it, I also have dry eye and allergy problems along with the astigmatism and that makes corrective contact lenses a less than ideal solution!)

I find the Axion XM38 fills most of my needs and is a good compromise from the high seat when I'm starting off getting into position 90 or more minutes before sunrise and need to spot the deer some distance away before there's enough light to see them through the bino's/scope. Thus I'm ready, waiting and know where to look from 60 minutes before sunrise, till it gets light enough to see through scope/bino's. The XM38 gives better "reach" than a wider field of view would, but makes it less useful in say, walking through the forest and scanning quickly through the near/middle ground. It occurs to me that the Pulsar XG35 (+/- LRF) would give a wider field of view (much better when on foot), but with its greater pixel count I could use 2x optical zoom to get the same reach (and resolution) as the XM38 for high-seat use - but the XG35 has a different eyepiece which can't be folded back. And even the Axions are a bit pricey to be making mistakes with!

I'd appreciate views from anyone who has experience of spectacle wearing and thermals. Thanks.

Alasdair
 
As a fellow speccy I feel your pain. I wear varifocals but have no problem using an axion XQ38 while wearing them. It is a problem when shooting however as I find they split the reticle cross hairs.

I used to manage to stalk with out my glasses, having to put them on to check a phone or whatever, but try to avoid using my phone why out and just use the clock in the axion.

I now find my distance vision deteriorating a little and so wear my glasses all the time and just remove them for the shot. Always a worry that I will lose them though.

Tried contacts but I simply can't get them into eyes, despite persistent practice
 
I wear varifocals all the time and also found that they had an adverse effect when looking through a scope. For shooting, rifle and shotgun, I bought a pair of bifocals with quite large lenses but specified that the split between reading and distance had to be as low as possible, just enough to be able to read my phone screen if needed. These work extremely well for both shooting disciplines and it means I don’t have to remove them in the field.
At night I’m using a Guide TK35 spotter and looking through glasses doesn’t present a problem, it perhaps allows a little reflected light from the screen to be visible but I can’t say whether it has put any foxes off.

I was recently taking a tree down and was wearing my varifocals beneath a pair of safety goggles, I took the goggles off and my glasses fell on the floor amongst the brash, I couldn’t for the life of me find them and ended up phoning my wife to bring me my prescription safety glasses whilst being unable to move from the spot in case I stood on them.
 
Always wear single vision glasses and just push them up on my forehead for using the thermal. Same thermal as yours seems to adjust to my eyes using focus and diopter
 
Always wear single vision glasses and just push them up on my forehead for using the thermal.

I am invariably wearing a peaked cap/hat when stalking which makes this difficult (need to cover shiny white bald head, and need a peak to keep rain off the spectacles!). And, I wear my glasses securely fixed round my ears so they won't fall off when I look down under my high seat! . . and, yes, that did happen to me - had to go home and get the spare pair, but did find them.

Anyone any experience with the new eyepiece on the Axion XG35 with spectacles in place?

Alasdair.
 
OK!

I had the chance today to try the Axion XG35 (- not a field test, so can't comment on picture quality sensor sensitivity etc.,)

For me, I can say that, with my spectacles on, it has exactly the same limitations as my Axion XM38.
There is no rubber flange that can be folded back, as on the earlier Axions, but the field of view for a spectacle wearer like me is the same as on my XM38 after I've folded back the flange i.e. I can not see all 4 corners of the screen through the eyepiece without removing my specs.

Back in 2014 I had a Pulsar Quantum HD38S that I eventually resorted to taking a knife to the rubber on the eyepiece to make it more spectacle friendly, but even that didn't fully solve the problem and shouldn't be necessary on equipment at this price!
As far as I can see the eyepieces on contemporary Helions, Accolade and Mergers have the same rubber eyepieces as my old Quantum HD38S which is why I got the Axion XM38 which is marginally better but not perfect.
The eyepiece on the Axion XG35 is in my view (!) even less suited to spectacle wearers than the XM38 and other earlier Axions.

Another reason to want a more spectacle friendly unit is to enable sharing the the same unit between two or more people without having to reset the eyepiece focus each each time.

Up to today I find the original Axions are the most spectacle friendly Pulsar thermal spotters, though it seems to me that it would no be difficult to copy the systems used by top end binoculars giving adjustable eye relief without restricting the field of view.

Please, please, please Pulsar do something to make your eyepieces more friendly to spectacle users!

Alasdair
 
As a fellow speccy I feel your pain. I wear varifocals but have no problem using an axion XQ38 while wearing them. It is a problem when shooting however as I find they split the reticle cross hairs.

I used to manage to stalk with out my glasses, having to put them on to check a phone or whatever, but try to avoid using my phone why out and just use the clock in the axion.

I now find my distance vision deteriorating a little and so wear my glasses all the time and just remove them for the shot. Always a worry that I will lose them though.

Tried contacts but I simply can't get them into eyes, despite persistent practice
Simple solution to finding them and not losing
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I tried out the Hik micro kit at the shooting show this weekend, alot more spectacle testical wallet and watch friendly.
 
I have a XQ35 and in the dark I go spectacles free but at other times I use it with glasses. I have a Butler creek see thru style cap on the ocular lense that always stays shut.
Hinge at 12:00 clock no specs.
Hinge at 14:00 wearing specs.

Easy.

I do prefer using optics without glasses but the above is workable and provides a quickly adjustable focus change.
 
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