Cheviot
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Don't forget the dog if take one with you, i have a dog one and some wound power in the truck
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Stalking First-Aid Medical-Pack - what's in yours?
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Muntybuck5803
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1x CAT set up for one handed operation immediately accessible on my belt.
In my pack:
1x CAT
2x ECB / Israeli bandage
2x Z fold celox rapid.
1x Cyalume setup as a ‘buzzsaw’
1x MS2000 strobe
Same again all mirrored in the car.
In my pack:
1x CAT
2x ECB / Israeli bandage
2x Z fold celox rapid.
1x Cyalume setup as a ‘buzzsaw’
1x MS2000 strobe
Same again all mirrored in the car.
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Seafarer
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What's the buzzsaw ref?
Muntybuck5803
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The Buzz-Saw: Nighttime Survival Signaling Technique - WillowHavenOutdoor Survival Skills
As many of you would agree, signaling for rescue in any survival situation is extremely important. The more signaling ‘know-how’ tactics you have in your mental preparedness Bag-O-Tricks the better your chances are of rescue – plain and simple. However, with that said, the way you use a survival...
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John Gryphon
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In lounge rooms long ago when the use of the Hong Kong was happening all the time we used to crack the Cyalumes put a small hole in one end and do the buzz saw with the light on. Crank the music up (Led Zep) then turn the light off....whhoooooaaaa!
Aye likely that, plus our ‘clients’ are often drunk/drugged and throwing up so that’s a factor. In any event it is the less important part of CPR it appears. The important thing ( according to my mrs who worked ICU and is now a nurse practitioner-calm down potshot
) is go to depth on compressions, ribs will break unfortunately, especially if middle aged or above (and once a sternum for me, but the casualty survived and made a full recovery).
Interesting that you are being told no rescue breaths. The last one I did this year included rescue breaths.
Quite, rescue breaths are the only form of moving air around the lungs in a in-water rescue as chest compressions tend to push the person under!
Not being a medical person but I guess the reason they can keep people away from close contact these days.
A team of 4 of us gave chest compressions and AV for 45 mins to a diver in 1994 got into port found 2 German doctors and they took over...He was dead but it was the doctors call not ours, not nice as I took his buddy over to see him after the doctors covered him up.
Sonicdmb73
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It is a real eye opener when you start with Resusi Annie how much effort is required. Two minutes is a long time actually doing it properly. When we teach some of the cadets struggle with it. Due to their physical size. That said the last training weekend I was on, two Cadet’s got a Commandant’s Coin. For stepping in and giving First Aid to a Lady who had fallen, and was unconscious. It is quite common to get feedback from the public where Cadet’s have given first aid. The training should be part of the school curriculum IMO.Aye likely that, plus our ‘clients’ are often drunk/drugged and throwing up so that’s a factor. In any event it is the less important part of CPR it appears. The important thing ( according to my mrs who worked ICU and is now a nurse practitioner-calm down potshot
If I recall correctly the survival rates are in the seven to fifteen percent range with CPR alone. It goes up to the sixty to seventy percent range if a Defibrillator is used.
Not nice being involved in trying to save someone and losing them, but it is a testament to you all that you carried on till it was confirmed by the Dr’s
Big Bang Theory
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I see a lot of references to CAT tq. I prefer the SOF-T myself - less likely to break in the heat of the moment. I also carry celox gauze and injector, and stuff for the more ‘mundane’ injuries.
As for rescue breaths they are back in, but as ever two times you don’t need to deliver them - if you can’t, or you don’t want to.
I teach this stuff, including a Catastrophic Bleed Management course.
As for rescue breaths they are back in, but as ever two times you don’t need to deliver them - if you can’t, or you don’t want to.
I teach this stuff, including a Catastrophic Bleed Management course.
Antonyweeks
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I keep celox and a couple of trauma bandages on me and a whole bunch of other stuff in the truck. However, I don't have a tourniquet actually. A cursory look online seems to have some on Amazon for about £15 and then CAT labelled versions for about £30. Is there a huge difference in quality or are the cheap ones crap Chinese knock offs that are liable to break (probably the intention of the manufacturers.... 
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I keep celox and a couple of trauma bandages on me and a whole bunch of other stuff in the truck. However, I don't have a tourniquet actually. A cursory look online seems to have some on Amazon for about £15 and then CAT labelled versions for about £30. Is there a huge difference in quality or are the cheap ones crap Chinese knock offs that are liable to break (probably the intention of the manufacturers....
For me, it's a pain in the arse to carry these things around in a sensible manner. I want them to be accesable, while at the same time being out of the way. It's much easier to leave the tourniquet in the car, and roll the dice that this outing will be uneventful like every other outing before it. So if I am going to make the effort to carry one, I'm going to carry a proper piece of kit.
More importantly, no one carries a tourniquet for a best case scenario. That tourniquet is for what happens after things have gone teriblly wrong. At this point, I'm going to feel like a complete chop (but possibily only briefly) if I snapped the rod of a cheap chinese knockoff while I, or someone else is bleeding out.
It's worth the money to buy the orginal. The knock-offs are great for practice and training.
I get what you are saying but that's a big call if there is a major bleed
Yes, triumph of hope over experience really. Get 'em in the boat asap. I always took the view that rescue breaths are a nice to have but compressions are the key and there will be an element of circulation anyway from all that pumping assuming the airway is clear. At that stage they are dead anyway so you can't make it any worse.
Never saw a diver successfully resuscitated, don't think I ever met one who had seen it either. The first guy was worked on by the head of emergency medicine in the USAF at RAF Alconbury in very short order, that was a big dose of reality. The second one was when my buddy was an A&E consultant and she didn't have any luck either.
roaring_stag
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In Bino Harness I have:
1 x FFD
1 x TQ
1 x Celox granules
1 x cells Gauze
In Vorn there I have:
1 x FFD (in addition to Bino Harness)
1 x TQ (in addition to Bino Harness)
1 x roll of strapping/gauze
1 x set of clothing/trauma shears
1 x bottle of hand sanitizer
couple of cylumes
Garmin in-reach GPS unit
In Truck I have full med kit - LOMO med pack - Forestry First Aid Kit For Outdoor Workers | Lomo Watersport UK. Wetsuits, Dry Bags & Outdoor Gear. , plus a few more added extras which I have included over the years.
Seafarer
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Good question...
Join the Army?
Do the HSE Dive Medic Course (stitches, TQ, IV lines, even a post-mortem)?
Quick Google search turns things like this up; Tourniquets and Haemostatic Dressings Training for catastrophic bleeding - CPD Certified
You-tube?
roaring_stag
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Check out CA First aid online - Stew Richardson runs excellent EFAW+F courses across Scotland…
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