Driven Boar Calibre

[big ears]

Before someone starts a fight, let's go back to ear protection. In my experience the plugs are dangerous: while removing them you can easily damage the eardrum with the depression created in the outer ear. Moreover, the plugs protects the ear just against sounds arriving by air, whilesound arriving via bones, not stopped by a shell (or is it a muff?) are still reaching the eardrum and related cable.

Crumbs you must be shoving them in a hell of a way!!! The ear drum is 25mm from the ear hole
You are right simple plugs do not give enough protection from report of a firearm.
The in ear electronic devices are good and work.
The debate about sound through bone is interesting. Typically it’s the high frequencies that cause damage and low frequencies that pass easier through bone. The bone does give a 20-30dB sound reduction due to its mass effect. So is not as good as a defender but not as bad as nothing.
I use peltors and put up with the discomfort which for me is pressure on my jaw joint in-front of ear.

In essence any protection is better than none. Having a longer barrel is not ear protection and only fools (idiots) think so.

I still think the 30-06 is the answer to the OP

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[ofbiro]

Well, years ago, after a session at the range, when I removed my plugs I felt a sharp pain in one ear. I saw a doctor two days later and he found out that the drum, although not broken was covered with congealed blood. The plug removal acted as a sucker (or a plunger) and the depression was enough to injure the drum.
I concur in praising the .30-06 but the 7x64 (a metric duplicate of the '07) is equally good medicine for pigs and deer.

 

[big ears]

Well, years ago, after a session at the range, when I removed my plugs I felt a sharp pain in one ear. I saw a doctor two days later and he found out that the drum, although not broken was covered with congealed blood. The plug removal acted as a sucker (or a plunger) and the depression was enough to injure the drum.
I concur in praising the .30-06 but the 7x64 (a metric duplicate of the '07) is equally good medicine for pigs and deer.

Oh I see. Yes barotrauma (negative pressure) can do that.

 

[tim@tcs]

I was always amused by the suggested 7mm minimum being jumped on by the local police as gospel when about 20 years ago I wanted to vary my 6.5 Swede for Boar. After all the Scandinavians get by fine with that calibre on boar and Elk.
I even offered to load heavier bullets using Nosler Partitions to achieve the same energy but gave up arguing with them!
I have a CZ 550 FS in Swede with an S&B 1.25 to 5 x 20 in a 30 mm tube so ideal for the job.
Eventually my ticket was opened to AOLQ so I had the rifle but not the opportunity!
Not sure if I will ever get the chance but it will have to be high seat so maybe driven overseas or with an add on NV in the Forest

 

[Polar Lynx]

Driven boars means boars on the move. Very seldom do they fall and die on bullet inpact regardless of caliber. Would say 90 % of hit boars here (Sweden) die within 60-80 meters. No more to that than to go with dog 15 min after shot.
People around here use moderators and ear protection together. Ears need not be covered longer than the drive. Probably 50 % of boar shooters here use 6,5 and heavy bullets. Norma Oryx popular. 30 % use 308 and then all sorts of calibers incl 30:06.

 

[Jagare]

I was always amused by the suggested 7mm minimum being jumped on by the local police as gospel when about 20 years ago I wanted to vary my 6.5 Swede for Boar. After all the Scandinavians get by fine with that calibre on boar and Elk.
I even offered to load heavier bullets using Nosler Partitions to achieve the same energy but gave up arguing with them!
I have a CZ 550 FS in Swede with an S&B 1.25 to 5 x 20 in a 30 mm tube so ideal for the job.
Eventually my ticket was opened to AOLQ so I had the rifle but not the opportunity!
Not sure if I will ever get the chance but it will have to be high seat so maybe driven overseas or with an add on NV in the Forest

A few years back one of our hunting mags did a survey of calibre V wounding of boar. The 6.5 swede had the highest rate of wounding requireing following up wounded boar and the 9.3 the least. There are plenty of calibres that are more poular in Scandinavia than the 6.5 these days. The Swede would be OK for shooting boar over bait and moose arn't hard to kill. I can't think of anybody I know here who would shoot driven boar with a Swede.

 

[tim@tcs]

I did convert some brass into 9.5 x 57 Mauser for a friend and we ran up some loads using 200 grain plus bullets he’d bought! Chrono’d them and he was happy with the results as he wanted to use them on wild porkers in Scotland.
This never occurred thanks to Covid but it was great fun developing a load even if I found the recoil a bit punishing.
He had his fathers Manlicher Schonauer from his time in Africa and I think he is still waiting on the opportunity

 

[jb1]

1 year we had a John Rambo using a very short barrel 300WM. Using (then we thought) early copper bullets, 3 shots at a back end and missed. He swore he hit it.
The numpty also carried a knife, just in case. (He'd have been better off using that).
If anyone went with Frank they may have been on the same trip.

 

[Manu]

Certainly a "Wrong zone" that one.

Shot / stripping

 

[jack243win]

Blaser in 9.3x62, absolute punisher of a round for driven boar

 

[finnbear270]

Me, Just working up a copied load of Lapua 9.3x62 220 grain Naturalis, in the ram & slam Helix.

 

[Jagare]

Blaser in 9.3x62, absolute punisher of a round for driven boar

Punisher for the boar or the shooter? Are the boar any deader than when I use my .308 or 8x57jrs? The 8x57 in the rimmed or unrimmed version is on a par with the 30.06 . 8x57 one of the great boar shooting rounds. easy on the shoulder, death on boar, the same as my .308.

 

[jack243win]

Punisher for the boar or the shooter? Are the boar any deader than when I use my .308 or 8x57jrs? The 8x57 in the rimmed or unrimmed version is on a par with the 30.06 . 8x57 one of the great boar shooting rounds. easy on the shoulder, death on boar, the same as my .308.

For the boar. I don’t doubt that 8x57 or 308 will do the job absolutely perfectly, but the 9.3x62 is a real thumper. If you own a blaser, it’s an ST barrel, so you can use standard bolt face.

The 9.3x62 was developed for German settlers in Africa as they were not permitted to use military calibres. If it’s good enough to hunt the plains of Africa it’s definitely adequate for boar in Europe!

Have a look on YouTube at some driven hunts with it, it stops them in their tracks! - a cool cartridge.

Regards
Jack

 

[Jagare]

For the boar. I don’t doubt that 8x57 or 308 will do the job absolutely perfectly, but the 9.3x62 is a real thumper. If you own a blaser, it’s an ST barrel, so you can use standard bolt face.

The 9.3x62 was developed for German settlers in Africa as they were not permitted to use military calibres. If it’s good enough to hunt the plains of Africa it’s definitely adequate for boar in Europe!

Have a look on YouTube at some driven hunts with it, it stops them in their tracks! - a cool cartridge.

Regards
Jack

Thumper is the right word. I know the history of the 9.3x62 and up to the reappearance of boar in Sweden you could hardly give away a second hand 9.3x62 and new ones were rare as hens teeth.
Down our shooting range you can buy target ammo in Calibres 6.5x55 .308, 30.06 and 9.3x62 in the scrap barrel 9.3x62 is the least seen cartridge. I think this is because its a thumper and not pleasant to shoot many series on the running moose with. It would be interesting to know how well people shoot in reality with the 9.3x62 on the running moose range.

 

[Ratel]

Why not just have one rifle for 'All seasons".
My 7x57 does everything from Munties up.
Last two boars turned base over apex very nicely with 165gr Geco. Deer go down with 140 gr Softpoint just as well.

 

[jack243win]

Thumper is the right word. I know the history of the 9.3x62 and up to the reappearance of boar in Sweden you could hardly give away a second hand 9.3x62 and new ones were rare as hens teeth.
Down our shooting range you can buy target ammo in Calibres 6.5x55 .308, 30.06 and 9.3x62 in the scrap barrel 9.3x62 is the least seen cartridge. I think this is because its a thumper and not pleasant to shoot many series on the running moose with. It would be interesting to know how well people shoot in reality with the 9.3x62 on the running moose range.

I think with a moderator fitted it will calm down massively, of course, depending on the country laws you’re hunting in, if it is permitted.

Id choose the .308 like you stated with a slow heavy projectile if you were concerned about recoil, as it’s a great all rounder. But as a lad in my 20’s I’m not all that arsed about recoil lol. Id love a 9.3x62 barrel if I could find one at a good price.

Regards
Jack

 

[jack243win]

Why not just have one rifle for 'All seasons".
My 7x57 does everything from Munties up.
Last two boars turned base over apex very nicely with 165gr Geco. Deer go down with 140 gr Softpoint just as well.

So will a .308, with a lot more bullet selection

But yes, 7x57 is a fantastic cartridge from what I have read. A one calibre to do it all in the UK.

 

[Jagare]

Why not just have one rifle for 'All seasons".
My 7x57 does everything from Munties up.
Last two boars turned base over apex very nicely with 165gr Geco. Deer go down with 140 gr Softpoint just as well.

Its strange that the 7x57 isn't more popular than it is. A while back I was looking at my LGS web site and I think they had only a couple of 7x57 rifles in stock neither were new. Also no 7x57 ammo. this is a gun shop with thousands of guns in stock and they say 25 tons of ammo. I also could not find 7x57 available any where in Sweden. 7x57R is very common here and ammo freely available due to its use in combi weapons.

 

[Jagare]

I think with a moderator fitted it will calm down massively, of course, depending on the country laws you’re hunting in, if it is permitted.

Id choose the .308 like you stated with a slow heavy projectile if you were concerned about recoil, as it’s a great all rounder. But as a lad in my 20’s I’m not all that arsed about recoil lol. Id love a 9.3x62 barrel if I could find one at a good price.

Regards
Jack

I shoot 165 grn oryx or 150grn Fox classic hunter in my .308 or 180grn Lapua Naturalis or 180grn Fox classic hunter in my 8x57jrs killed plenty of boar with both. I did have an urge to get a 9.3x62 barrel for my Mauser M03 at one time but I came to realise that anything the 9.3 could do on boar I could do with the .308.

 

[jack243win]

I shoot 165 grn oryx or 150grn Fox classic hunter in my .308

Have you ever tried it at distance with the ELDM 178? Or is your hunting in thick forestry in Sweden?

Beautiful country by the way, it’s one place I’ve never had the chance to visit yet. It’s interesting how different countries have different hunting culture too.