Wanted: Info please

[Sakoodin1]

Hi,since the pulsar quantum has now been long and gone for a while is there any thermal that can be attached by a bracket to the car roof light then linked by cable to a screen in the dash ?? Must be by cables!! The WiFi connection I am no keen on at all!! I much prefer cable!! Ay help welcome. Ideally the same idea as the quantum as I am not technologically minded so I don’t want it to be to complicated thanks

 

[Overlay]

i’m still using my quantum for the exact same thing. it still works perfectly on a window clamp run to a 12v 8” tv I had to get some more leads from the tv supplier over the years but it still works perfectly, i used it saturday night waiting out for a chicken stealing fox does make things easier instead of having keep glassing around , i thought I see one for sale on here this week at a good price
i made a solid link to the window clamp tilt and pan handle so I could be in the back seat and have the TI on the front window to be able to get a full pan with the screen and stand alone battery pack keeps the back clear for the rifle and flask
when I got the pulsar accolades TI i tried the wi fi thing with a i pad but give up with it in the end and revert back to the quantum
good luck with your search wi fi i couldn’t get to work for me
cheers
phil

 

[Jeffo]

I have just bought this for a roof spotter, will be using a 7 inch monitor, which will be wired, and it will be mounted on a light force T handle

Guide TrackIR 50mm​

 

[Sakoodin1]

i’m still using my quantum for the exact same thing. it still works perfectly on a window clamp run to a 12v 8” tv I had to get some more leads from the tv supplier over the years but it still works perfectly, i used it saturday night waiting out for a chicken stealing fox does make things easier instead of having keep glassing around , i thought I see one for sale on here this week at a good price
i made a solid link to the window clamp tilt and pan handle so I could be in the back seat and have the TI on the front window to be able to get a full pan with the screen and stand alone battery pack keeps the back clear for the rifle and flask
when I got the pulsar accolades TI i tried the wi fi thing with a i pad but give up with it in the end and revert back to the quantum
good luck with your search wi fi i couldn’t get to work for me
cheers
phil

Hi phil,yea I used the quantum for years but I was just worried about the fixability side of it so I sold it but I think I saw somewhere that bushwear are still selling the xq38?

 

[Sakoodin1]

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I have just bought this for a roof spotter, will be using a 7 inch monitor, which will be wired, and it will be mounted on a light force T handle

Guide TrackIR 50mm​

hi Jeffo,interested in what the image is like from the guide ??

 

[Jeffo]

I won't have it until tomorrow or Wednesday will keep you informed, I think it is on par with my pulsar Xq38f, or thereabouts

 

[FISH BOY]

Sorry to hijack, but this any good to anyone? New as far as I can tell as never remember taking it fishing.

Next base portable DVD player with jack input (no Wi-Fi). Comes with

Leather case (to tie around headrest)
Neoprene storage case for player
Wall 240v power pack
Car 12v power lead
Satellite Ariel (new so no idea what it can pick up)

£35 posted.

 

[mealiejimmy]

Hi,since the pulsar quantum has now been long and gone for a while is there any thermal that can be attached by a bracket to the car roof light then linked by cable to a screen in the dash ?? Must be by cables!! The WiFi connection I am no keen on at all!! I much prefer cable!! Ay help welcome. Ideally the same idea as the quantum as I am not technologically minded so I don’t want it to be to complicated thanks

Best deal for a thermal with a cable output to a screen is the Guide Track Ir series. currently on offer at Optics Warehouse

Guide TrackIR 50mm 400x300 17um 50mk WIFI Thermal Imager Monocular

Guide TrackIR 50mm 400x300 17um 50mk WIFI Thermal Imager Monocular. The TrackIR Series of thermal imaging monocular features a 400x300 17µm <50mK NETD thermal sensor & image enhancement for performance imaging combined with a 50Hz refresh rate and a 1280x960 HD LCOS display resulting in a smooth...

www.opticswarehouse.co.uk

This is a cracking thermal monocular at a stupid cheap price.
It has a micro HDMI connector that connects to any screen with an HDMI input using a cable
Her's a screen that will do the job 7 inch LCD Monitor 1024*600 Display Screen w/ AV/VGA/HDMI Input Built-in Speaker | eBay
and here's a cable that will connect the thermal to the screen 3 METER Micro HDMI to HDMI Cable for Hudle Kindle Fire HD Tablet to TV HDTV 4K 6920675522932 | eBay
All you need to do is provide the screen with 12 volts form the vehicle and some method of mounting the screen inside the vehicle
Simples

Cheers

Bruce

 

[Sakoodin1]

Best deal for a thermal with a cable output to a screen is the Guide Track Ir series. currently on offer at Optics Warehouse

Guide TrackIR 50mm 400x300 17um 50mk WIFI Thermal Imager Monocular

Guide TrackIR 50mm 400x300 17um 50mk WIFI Thermal Imager Monocular. The TrackIR Series of thermal imaging monocular features a 400x300 17µm <50mK NETD thermal sensor & image enhancement for performance imaging combined with a 50Hz refresh rate and a 1280x960 HD LCOS display resulting in a smooth...

www.opticswarehouse.co.uk

This is a cracking thermal monocular at a stupid cheap price.
It has a micro HDMI connector that connects to any screen with an HDMI input using a cable
Her's a screen that will do the job 7 inch LCD Monitor 1024*600 Display Screen w/ AV/VGA/HDMI Input Built-in Speaker | eBay
and here's a cable that will connect the thermal to the screen 3 METER Micro HDMI to HDMI Cable for Hudle Kindle Fire HD Tablet to TV HDTV 4K 6920675522932 | eBay
All you need to do is provide the screen with 12 volts form the vehicle and some method of mounting the screen inside the vehicle
Simples

Cheers

Bruce

That’s what I’m after excellent info and help thank you very much

 

[Sakoodin1]

Wu

Best deal for a thermal with a cable output to a screen is the Guide Track Ir series. currently on offer at Optics Warehouse

Guide TrackIR 50mm 400x300 17um 50mk WIFI Thermal Imager Monocular

Guide TrackIR 50mm 400x300 17um 50mk WIFI Thermal Imager Monocular. The TrackIR Series of thermal imaging monocular features a 400x300 17µm <50mK NETD thermal sensor & image enhancement for performance imaging combined with a 50Hz refresh rate and a 1280x960 HD LCOS display resulting in a smooth...

www.opticswarehouse.co.uk

This is a cracking thermal monocular at a stupid cheap price.
It has a micro HDMI connector that connects to any screen with an HDMI input using a cable
Her's a screen that will do the job 7 inch LCD Monitor 1024*600 Display Screen w/ AV/VGA/HDMI Input Built-in Speaker | eBay
and here's a cable that will connect the thermal to the screen 3 METER Micro HDMI to HDMI Cable for Hudle Kindle Fire HD Tablet to TV HDTV 4K 6920675522932 | eBay
All you need to do is provide the screen with 12 volts form the vehicle and some method of mounting the screen inside the vehicle
Simples

Cheers

Bruce

quick Q how does it attach?by screw or will I get a bracket made?thanks

 

[User00040]

Hi,since the pulsar quantum has now been long and gone for a while is there any thermal that can be attached by a bracket to the car roof light then linked by cable to a screen in the dash ?? Must be by cables!! The WiFi connection I am no keen on at all!! I much prefer cable!! Ay help welcome. Ideally the same idea as the quantum as I am not technologically minded so I don’t want it to be to complicated thanks

What's wrong with Wifi? Surely you have a phone or tablet that will connect?

Get your credit card out or flog a few of your dS scopes and you'll have a proper system!



FCS/FLS tried wiring in thermals to a fold down screen above the passenger seat for connecting thermals to the roof mounted lamp bracket.

All given up on that idea as:

1. Wires get tangled

2. Wires can be pulled out

3. Wires can get chewed by vermin

4. Wiring can be done badly, susceptible to roof leaks

Does not happen with Wifi

 

[Sakoodin1]

What's wrong with Wifi? Surely you have a phone or tablet that will connect?

Get your credit card out or flog a few of your dS scopes and you'll have a proper system!



FCS/FLS tried wiring in thermals to a fold down screen above the passenger seat for connecting thermals to the roof mounted lamp bracket.

All given up on that idea as:

1. Wires get tangled

2. Wires can be pulled out

3. Wires can get chewed by vermin

4. Wiring can be done badly, susceptible to roof leaks

Does not happen with Wifi

I’m a simple man with simple needsI did try WiFi onto a tablet but it kept loosing connection so I lost the rag with that idea I much more prefer things I can see that’s connected I will sell some if my ds’s when I’ve finished with them but that’s not until the anti countryside folk put me out of a job then they will be worthless

 

[mealiejimmy]

Wu

quick Q how does it attach?by screw or will I get a bracket made?thanks

There is a threaded insert on the underside of the thermal.
It has the standard 1/4 UNC thread used on all cameras, tripods etc, so it should thread straight into your existing light holder

Cheers

Bruce

 

[Sakoodin1]

There is a threaded insert on the underside of the thermal.
It has the standard 1/4 UNC thread used on all cameras, tripods etc, so it should thread straight into your existing light holder

Cheers

Bruce

Thanks for that

 

[mealiejimmy]

What's wrong with Wifi? Surely you have a phone or tablet that will connect?

Get your credit card out or flog a few of your dS scopes and you'll have a proper system!



FCS/FLS tried wiring in thermals to a fold down screen above the passenger seat for connecting thermals to the roof mounted lamp bracket.

All given up on that idea as:

1. Wires get tangled

2. Wires can be pulled out

3. Wires can get chewed by vermin

4. Wiring can be done badly, susceptible to roof leaks

Does not happen with Wifi

All of the things you list are correct.
However, the one thing that a wi fi connection can never beat a wired connection for is lag.
Although it has improved, every wifi connection has lag
The actual amount of lag depends on the thermal and also on the viewing device
I had 2 tablets and a mobile phone connected by wifi to a HIK thermal and all three had lag and all by different amounts
The HIK also has an analog video output on the its USB connector so i wired up a screen and compared the wired image and the wifi image
There is no lag with the wired image and it showed just how much lag there is with the wifi image
I've run both wired and wifi connected roof mounted thermal spotters and wired beats wifi every time

Cheers

Bruce

 

[Sakoodin1]

All ordered just now thanks, the only kicker is that’s an internal battery but I’m hoping I can just change it whilst using it by running another cable? Fingers crossed. If not we’ll get ho for hand price it’s a good buy

 

[User00040]

All of the things you list are correct.
However, the one thing that a wi fi connection can never beat a wired connection for is lag.
Although it has improved, every wifi connection has lag
The actual amount of lag depends on the thermal and also on the viewing device
I had 2 tablets and a mobile phone connected by wifi to a HIK thermal and all three had lag and all by different amounts
The HIK also has an analog video output on the its USB connector so i wired up a screen and compared the wired image and the wifi image
There is no lag with the wired image and it showed just how much lag there is with the wifi image
I've run both wired and wifi connected roof mounted thermal spotters and wired beats wifi every time

Cheers

Bruce

Would imagine this depends on what generation of Wifi the devices are running.

I really doubt a Chinese made thermal will be running Wifi 6.

Also, waterproofing is a huge issue when running wired gear.

Does the HikVision thermal draw power from the USB as well?

I've tried Pulsar Streamvision and have encountered lag as well, but the above are handled spotters, and not dedicated units for use in vehicles.

I use the FryLyt produced handle, and it blows any of the Lightforce stuff out of the water (although I still have a LF lamp and prefer the ability to run filters and a shade), but I suspect their thermal unit will be equally good (better be at that price!)

Their lamp kit is already in use with NatureScot Wildlife Ops:

 

[mealiejimmy]

The HIK Vison thermal can be powered via the USB port, so a powerbank connected to the port will extend battery life
As for wifi 6 not being available on Chinese made thermals - it's not currently available on any hunting thermals.
BTW, apart from some of the Pulsar range, almost every thermal available in the UK is made in China
HIK, IRay, Senopex, Guide, Thermtec, Conotech, PARD, Pixfra, ATN, Dali are all made in China
Other than a few very, very expensive thermal spotters set up for permanent outdoor use (just like the cctv cameras you see on every street corner), the thermal hunting community is using hand held thermal spotters mounted on a vehicle roof either on a handle or a motorised pan and tilt.
Also, those "professional" units are all wired - both for power and signal
I've been running a home made roof mounted thermal based on wireless searchlight chassis for over 6 years now and never had any problems with waterproofing.
The pan and tilt control is wireless, but the power for the unit and the thermal, and the video signal coming from the thermal are all wired
The Guide Track IR50 I linked to above is IP66 rated so will work in the rain.

Cheers

Bruce

 

[User00040]

The HIK Vison thermal can be powered via the USB port, so a powerbank connected to the port will extend battery life
As for wifi 6 not being available on Chinese made thermals - it's not currently available on any hunting thermals.
BTW, apart from some of the Pulsar range, almost every thermal available in the UK is made in China
HIK, IRay, Senopex, Guide, Thermtec, Conotech, PARD, Pixfra, ATN, Dali are all made in China
Other than a few very, very expensive thermal spotters set up for permanent outdoor use (just like the cctv cameras you see on every street corner), the thermal hunting community is using hand held thermal spotters mounted on a vehicle roof either on a handle or a motorised pan and tilt.
Also, those "professional" units are all wired - both for power and signal
I've been running a home made roof mounted thermal based on wireless searchlight chassis for over 6 years now and never had any problems with waterproofing.
The pan and tilt control is wireless, but the power for the unit and the thermal, and the video signal coming from the thermal are all wired
The Guide Track IR50 I linked to above is IP66 rated so will work in the rain.

Cheers

Bruce

Any pictures of your setup?

Seems odd to run a wireless pan and tilt mount yet still drill holes in your roof for a video feed.

The Fyrlyt system is nice in a way that it is able to draw power through their handle, which eliminates an external wire connection running through the roof, through the internal brass ball joint.

 

[mealiejimmy]

Any pictures of your setup?

Seems odd to run a wireless pan and tilt mount yet still drill holes in your roof for a video feed.

The Fyrlyt system is nice in a way that it is able to draw power through their handle, which eliminates an external wire connection running through the roof, through the internal brass ball joint.

There are no holes drilled in the roof.
The cable enters the vehicle at the rear offside passenger window

As I said, the pan and tilt started life as a 12 v powered, wireless controlled searchlight.
I removed the sealed beam unit and fitted an aluminium plate that holds the thermal lens and camera (17 micron 640x480 with 75mm lens.
As the unit pans, a toothed belt rotates a potentiometer which send a varying DC voltage down the cable along with the video signal
Inside the vehicle, 12 volt power goes up the cable to the pan and tilt and the thermal. It also powers the screen and the small module which uses the voltage from the potentiometer to drive the LEDs located around the edge of the screen which indicate the direction in which the thermal is pointing.
The screen attaches to the windscreen of the vehicle with a suction cup mount
On the roof of the vehicle there is an aluminium plate attached across the roof bars.
On this plate is the bracket which comes with the pan and tilt allowing it to be attached and removed easily
I've been using this system since 2017 and have never had a problem with rain
Although the pan and tilt can rotate through 360 degrees, it's not continuous, there are micro switches which stop the rotation at each end of it's travel

Cheers

Bruce