New law to retake driving test at 65
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MAH
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Seems to me that they are targeting the wrong age group.
I wounder if they took a look at the government data.
8x57
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You are assuming that they have a driving license and are attempting to comply with the law.
I've attended several fatal RTCs involving asylum seekers and immigrants who have never held a license or taken a test and don't consider it necessary to comply with all the usual requirements.
There's also a not insignificant number of our own "subculture" who think it's acceptable to just ignore the laws of the land with total disregard for all others.
8x57
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Stalker62
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I hope I was assuming nothing of the sort.
I merely sought to point out, there is a legal mechanism for foreign nationals to drive 'legally' on UK roads.
8x57
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I stand corrected I should have written -that's assuming rather than you are assuming.
Stalker62
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I well remember one of the instructors 'back in the day'...
"Never assume anything - because it makes an ass out of u and me.
God knows I have tried to forget it!
Sinistral
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You're confusing a mickey-mouse-type petition with a government consultation.
Anyway the science contradicts this, so it will go nowhere.
Drivers could be forced to retake driving test under new law proposals
A new petition has been created asking the Government to change the law and agree to amend the current driving rules
www.chroniclelive.co.uk
Elderly drivers not more dangerous than younger motorists, study claims
Despite being more likely to die or be seriously injured in an accident, researchers suggest this is down to increased frailty rather than impaired driving skills
www.theguardian.com
I take advanced driver retests every 3 years through RoSPA. In preparing for the retest, I study the latest edition of the Highway Code, practice commentary driving and occasionally book a half day session with an instructor (usually ex police). As I am about to claim my old age pension, I hope that all of that helps keep me safe on the road. I am sure regular retests would benefit all drivers, but as others have pointed out, there is a huge backlog at the testing centres. Also, again pointed out by other posters, some people come here thinking they are exempt from the laws in this country. I do feel, however, that the courts should require all drivers who have been banned from driving to pass an extended driving test before recovering their licences.
baguio
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These stats are rubbish and don't take into account so many things like which age groups drive the most miles per year. They're worthless. What about the age groups that consistently block up the road by driving well below the national speed limit. The number of crashes and penalty points per mile driven would be a better gauge of safety.
The old boy 2 houses down is in his 80's. he can hardly walk and was a GP himself. He drove across the road, through a hedge and into the side wall of the garage opposite his house just before Christmas. Claims his foot got stuck. I see that he's got a Car body work loan car again now so has clearly crashed his car again. His daughter lives around the corner and is tearing her hair out that he won't quit driving. Short journeys he uses a mobility scooter. Very sad.
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8x57
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My uncle is 93 and still drives. He never was a good driver and his car is witness to that.
I spoke to him recently and politely suggested that perhaps it might be time to give up driving. His reply was that my cousins, his sons, had been pestering to give up for some time and that he had finally agreed to do so and that he was giving up at the next renewal of his car insurance. I asked when was that, his reply next October.
I spoke to him recently and politely suggested that perhaps it might be time to give up driving. His reply was that my cousins, his sons, had been pestering to give up for some time and that he had finally agreed to do so and that he was giving up at the next renewal of his car insurance. I asked when was that, his reply next October.
In Wales it is exactly as you describe now.!Took my test 'back in the day'....see no reason why I would have to do it all again.
What on earth could have changed since then?
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What about the make up kit then??????
Martiniblack577
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Effects of AF/Diabetes/HTN/CHD (leading to stable/unstable) angina or ‘chest pain’/pain management for arthritis/osteoporosis/hip…could go on - all may affect a person’s capabilities to drive a car.
Probably a medical as well to confirm fit to drive is worthwhile and no different to what’s required if you fly an aeroplane where medicals are often annual renewal and par of the course when you get over 50.
There is a self declaration medical which has to be endorsed by your doctor where you confirm conditions such as:
■ Being prescribed medication for any psychiatric illness
■ Bipolar disorder, psychosis or a diagnosis of personality disorder
■ Drug abuse or alcohol misuse or addiction (or conviction for drink/drug driving)
■ Being prescribed medication or treatment for angina or heart failure
■ Cardiac surgical procedures including cardiac device implantation
■ Recurrent fainting or collapse (syncope)
■ Unexplained loss of consciousness
■ Insulin treatment
■ Chronic lung disease with shortness of breath on exertion
■ Any neurological condition requiring medication
■ Seizures or epilepsy
■ Significant functional physical disability likely to impair safe operation of normal flight controls
- source Flyer magazine
flyer.co.uk
Fatal RTC’s due to many of the above issues are not uncommon. For me, a driving license is like an FAC; a privilege.
Probably a medical as well to confirm fit to drive is worthwhile and no different to what’s required if you fly an aeroplane where medicals are often annual renewal and par of the course when you get over 50.
There is a self declaration medical which has to be endorsed by your doctor where you confirm conditions such as:
■ Being prescribed medication for any psychiatric illness
■ Bipolar disorder, psychosis or a diagnosis of personality disorder
■ Drug abuse or alcohol misuse or addiction (or conviction for drink/drug driving)
■ Being prescribed medication or treatment for angina or heart failure
■ Cardiac surgical procedures including cardiac device implantation
■ Recurrent fainting or collapse (syncope)
■ Unexplained loss of consciousness
■ Insulin treatment
■ Chronic lung disease with shortness of breath on exertion
■ Any neurological condition requiring medication
■ Seizures or epilepsy
■ Significant functional physical disability likely to impair safe operation of normal flight controls
- source Flyer magazine
Pilot Medicals
Dr Frank Voeten, Aeromedical Examiner, explains the different pilot medical certificates and declarations available
flyer.co.uk
Fatal RTC’s due to many of the above issues are not uncommon. For me, a driving license is like an FAC; a privilege.
Being a “Good idea” appears to be an automatic reason for rejection in most Government departments
I am 65, this bloody government delayed my pension until I am 66, now potentially want me to pay for a driving test again, when I actually do far less driving then ever and am in no hurry. Then lots of roads are becoming 20mph anyway.
Time they remember the power of the pensioners come the next election.
Time they remember the power of the pensioners come the next election.
Effects of AF/Diabetes/HTN/CHD (leading to stable/unstable) angina or ‘chest pain’/pain management for arthritis/osteoporosis/hip…could go on - all may affect a person’s capabilities to drive a car.
Probably a medical as well to confirm fit to drive is worthwhile and no different to what’s required if you fly an aeroplane where medicals are often annual renewal and par of the course when you get over 50.
There is a self declaration medical which has to be endorsed by your doctor where you confirm conditions such as:
■ Being prescribed medication for any psychiatric illness
■ Bipolar disorder, psychosis or a diagnosis of personality disorder
■ Drug abuse or alcohol misuse or addiction (or conviction for drink/drug driving)
■ Being prescribed medication or treatment for angina or heart failure
■ Cardiac surgical procedures including cardiac device implantation
■ Recurrent fainting or collapse (syncope)
■ Unexplained loss of consciousness
■ Insulin treatment
■ Chronic lung disease with shortness of breath on exertion
■ Any neurological condition requiring medication
■ Seizures or epilepsy
■ Significant functional physical disability likely to impair safe operation of normal flight controls
- source Flyer magazine
Pilot Medicals
Dr Frank Voeten, Aeromedical Examiner, explains the different pilot medical certificates and declarations available
Fatal RTC’s due to many of the above issues are not uncommon. For me, a driving license is like an FAC; a privilege.
Sounds like a good ideal annual medical for everybody who owns a driving licence after all the young and old are all potentially likely to tick one on your list.
Bavarianbrit
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Its a national upper speed limit not a national speed target. Are your assumed rights getting in the way of my rights? I suggest looking wider than your own perception of perhaps as I got up too late for work "get a move on". Just saying as it is a discussion.
I spent a long time driving under the USAs national 55mph limit which puts you to sleep imo, at 65mph then not imo.
baguio
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You're seriously blaming the government for delaying your pension by a year? Why dodn't you blame the NHS for keeping be alive too long? People are living longer and therefore claiming their state pension for longer. That has to be paid for somehow. What about us 'youngsters' who will be working into our 70's to pay for your pension? I bet you don't care about them.
Lots of roads aren't becoming slower either.
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