ASl sniper.177
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Did the introduction of telescopic rifle sights reduce deer numbers,or spoil deer stalking.
Telescopic sights
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Don't care...
ASl sniper.177
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An honest answer!Don't care...
I think people will be less bored once the Big Deer season starts... A second honest answer
Bored, not board.I think people will be less bored once the Big Deer season starts... A second honest answer
And you're probably right! Less pedantic, too!
Every new piece of hunting tech is "unethical" or gives unfair advantage. Until people see the benefits of it and it becomes widely adopted and accepted. Look at the current day/night scope trend, and look how frowned upon that was a few years back. Slightly before than it was TI. The list goes on
The deer are still winning
ASl sniper.177
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I'm currently using an Alpex 4k for deer and foxes. On the deer,I stick to legal shooting hour's only,even though I could shoot them quite a bit later or earlier. There's lot's that go into rising deer numbers. One is,there's more woodland in Britain now,than there has been in the last thousand years. Another factor is,some stalkers have a lot of ground,and guard it jealously,but can't shoot enough deer. On some of the ground I've shot on for a long time,I've introduced a couple of other shooters to the estate. One has done particularly well. The thing is,we're still struggling to keep on top of the deer numbers. If I jealousy guarded that ground,thing's would be considerably worse.
Druid
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Bang on. I went to an east Anglian stalkers event and the talk was about how more deer needed to be culled and that ‘sport stalkers’ had to be part of the solution.
It was pointed out that most land is barely shot as it’s tied up by a limited number of stalkers who shoot very few whilst many others can’t get a foothold on any land.
It will end up with government contractors killing many deer to manage them whilst the likes of forestry England stated that they had no interest in having some sort of public stalking access system and the landowners were only interested in selling stalking to well paying clients.
No answer at all to their own problems.
But anyway. Scopes only make you more accurate, got to be a good thing. the deer will still make it tricky to get near them anyway.
bottletopbill
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jh1986 good job we did not have to ID the species on our DSC1 course
Personally, if I’m stalking for pleasure, I like to keep things as basic as I possibly can. I’m not really interested in shooting big numbers, I don’t enjoy carrying a lot of kit around and I like the challenge of using minimal kit.
If I’m part of a situation where the objective is to get deer down, then it’s different. Thermal is ideal and I’ll use whatever mod cons will help me get the job done.
I don’t care what anyone else does.
If I’m part of a situation where the objective is to get deer down, then it’s different. Thermal is ideal and I’ll use whatever mod cons will help me get the job done.
I don’t care what anyone else does.
bottletopbill
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We all have our own ways in doing things so as long as you are happy and enjoying stalking.
This idea that some stalkers with big areas being the problem is just a drum that people without somewhere to go keep beating. I'm sure in some situations it could be a part of the problem but someone that has a small area and only shoots one for the pot or one because they don't have the equipment to deal with 10 on the floor is equally as big a problem.
good job people don't have to shoot a deer on their DSC1 course
I'm guessing he meant "good job we didn't have to ID *those* deer on our DSC1 course", referring to my pic of the cave painting above.good job people don't have to shoot a deer on their DSC1 course
We certainly did do deer ID
bottletopbill
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Sorry folk's yes I meant in the picture and yes we had to ID deer in our DSC1 course and we were all tested numerous times over the day's.
Tim wished some one had shot a deer on our course as we could have learnt a bit more hand's on.
Tim wished some one had shot a deer on our course as we could have learnt a bit more hand's on.
Where do you get that idea from?
The Woodland Trust claims that tree cover has doubled in the last 100 years, but I suspect that there was a lot more 1,000 years ago.
15% tree cover recorded in the Domesday book (approx 1,000 years ago) reduced to 5% by the start of the 20th Century.
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ASl sniper.177
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Look it up,you'll find it's true. With forming of the forestry commission woodland grew by quite a lot. Have seen it mentioned numerous times on TV and other forums. The first time I heard it,I was surprised I must admit.
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